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[YouTube] How Western Civilization Can Be Destroyed | Bill Whittle and Stefan Molyneux



MP3: http://www.fdrpodcasts.com/#/3172/how-western-civilization-can-be-destroyed-bill-whittle-and-stefan-molyneuxSoundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/stefan-molyneux/fdr-3172-how-western-civilization-can-be-destroyed-bill-whittle-and-stefan-molyneuxWith plunging stock markets, migrant related sexual assaults, terrorist attacks, cultural incompatibilities and political correctness running amuck – the United States of America and Europe are hanging by a thread. Stefan Molyneux and Bill Whittle discuss the state of the world and the political consequences of the coming demographic disasters which shall spell the future of mankind. Includes: Germany Rape Attacks, President Barack Obama’s Executive Action on Gun Control, Donald Trump’s continued rise, the silent majority uprising, the fall of Bill Clinton, the future imprisonment of Hillary Clinton and the future of Western Civilization!For more from Bill Whittle check out: https://www.billwhittle.comMore from Stefan and Bill Whittle!1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-ueR0OLlQ2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jhU3RZDg703: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLnehTFanMFreedomain Radio is 100% funded by viewers like you. Please support the show by signing up for a monthly subscription or making a one time donation at: http://www.freedomainradio.com/donateGet more from Stefan Molyneux and Freedomain Radio including books, podcasts and other info at: http://www.freedomainradio.comAmazon Affiliate LinksUS: http://www.fdrurl.com/AmazonCanada: http://www.fdrurl.com/AmazonCanadaUK: http://www.fdrurl.com/AmazonUK
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The latest batch of emails released from Hillary Clinton's personal account from her tenure as secretary of state includes 66 messages deemed classified at some level, the State Department said early Friday. 

 
In one email, Clinton even seemed to coach a top adviser on how to send secure information outside secure channels. 
 
All but one of the 66 messages have been labeled "confidential", the lowest level of classification. The remaining email has been labeled as "secret." The total number of classified emails found on Clinton's personal server has risen to 1,340 with the latest release. Seven of those emails have been labeled "secret."

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/08/latest-batch-clinton-emails-contains-66-more-classified-messages.html

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That's not what I thought statism meant. Is there another definition I'm unaware of?

 

According to Wikipedia:

 

In political sciencestatism is the belief that the state should control either economic or social policy, or both, to some degree.[1] Statism is effectively the opposite of anarchism,[1] an individual who supports the existence of the state is a statist.

Forms of statism[edit]

Statism can take many forms from minarchism to totalitarianism....

 

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If you google "statism": a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs.

 

That, at least, is certainly not what Bill describes when he talks about the ideal role of government. I'm sure that you could argue that his definition fits into the broader definition on Wikipedia, but that's also not what Ayn Rand meant when she talked about statism. From the second footnote in the Wikipedia article:

 

 

 

"The term “statism” was tirelessly promoted by Ayn Rand. A computer search of her published works for “statism” or “statist” gives over 300 hits. She described statism as the idea that 'man’s life and work belong to the state–to society, to the group, the gang, the race, the nation–and that the state may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own, tribal, collective good'.”  --Binswanger, Harry, Forbes, Nov 13, 2013.

 

I don't think you can really argue that the "night watchman" state fits this description. 

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Thanks, James. I actually hadn't tried a google search.

 

If you google "statism": a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs.

 

That, at least, is certainly not what Bill describes when he talks about the ideal role of government. I'm sure that you could argue that his definition fits into the broader definition on Wikipedia, but that's also not what Ayn Rand meant when she talked about statism. From the second footnote in the Wikipedia article:

 

 

I don't think you can really argue that the "night watchman" state fits this description. 

 

Right. I guess the line between a statist and a non-statist (if there is one and if it even matters... I think the answer is probably no on both accounts) would lie somewhere between objectivism/night watchman state and minarchism.

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John Kerry sent classified email to Hillary from a private email address...

 

http://twitchy.com/2016/02/02/lock-him-up-too-kerry-used-non-official-address-to-email-classified-info-to-hillary/


 

State Department spokesman John Kirby said Tuesday then-Sen. John Kerry used a "non-official" email address to send Hillary Clinton information in 2011 that has since been classified.

 
The emails between Kerry and Clinton were included among a small batch of records made public by the State Department Friday. It had been upgraded to "secret," the level of classification in government above "confidential," but below "top secret."
 

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kerry-sent-clinton-classified-intel-from-private-email-state/article/2582228

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That's not what I thought statism meant. Is there another definition I'm unaware of?

 

According to Wikipedia:

Yep exactly what I was thinking.  Not that I think whittle or molyneux are statists, just the fact that he's willing to put forward a revised definition like that makes me question credibility.

Definition of statism
  1. :  concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry

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I think what a lot of people miss or forget is controlling the 'rules' of the game between businesses and for businesses, such as discrimination and bankruptcy rules, is controlling the economy and all businesses. They don't need to be playing the game of tennis to control the game of tennis by being the referee who can hop in and interfere with the game on their whim. Indirect control over the game still allows a ton of control over how the game is played. Being the referee is a huge part of what makes government actions fit into the definition of statism. Statism is forcing your referee on others and then saying it's for the social good to undermine resistance to the injustice. Therefore I consider it an invalid claim to deny being a statist while supporting a referee that isn't universally agreed upon (all government agents, even in conventional democracies and republics, which are forcefully applied).

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I think what a lot of people miss or forget is controlling the 'rules' of the game between businesses and for businesses, such as discrimination and bankruptcy rules, is controlling the economy and all businesses. They don't need to be playing the game of tennis to control the game of tennis by being the referee who can hop in and interfere with the game on their whim. Indirect control over the game still allows a ton of control over how the game is played. Being the referee is a huge part of what makes government actions fit into the definition of statism. Statism is forcing your referee on others and then saying it's for the social good to undermine resistance to the injustice. Therefore I consider it an invalid claim to deny being a statist while supporting a referee that isn't universally agreed upon (all government agents, even in conventional democracies and republics, which are forcefully applied).

 

Tend your own garden.

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From Wiki:

 

A civilization (US) or civilisation (UK) is any complex society characterized by urban development, symbolic communication forms (typically, writing systems), and a perceived separation from and domination over the natural environment by a cultural elite.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] Civilizations are intimately associated with and often further defined by other socio-politico-economic characteristics, including centralization, the domestication of both humans and other organisms, specialization of labor, culturally ingrained ideologies of progress and supremacism, monumental architecture, taxation, societal dependence upon farming as an agricultural practice, and expansionism

 

Bold red emphasis mine.  I don't know that civilization has a lot to recommend it, per se.  I am certainly no fan of being a domestic, under the dominion of a cultural elite, who implement a socio-politico-economic system, supported by taxation in the service of progress (by whose definition, exactly?) that is perpetually expanding.

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