There would be a large economic correction that would take many years to reach a point of stability. Certain goods and services would subject to almost immediate impact, while others will change over time.
The issue of roads, especially in the US, would take a bit of time to change. Roads that were used constantly would likely be maintained for quite a long period of time. Roads that were not used very much, or were located in the middle of nowhere likely would not be taken care of for very long, and would be abandoned with enough time. Economic factors would cause people to migrate towards living in closer proximity, likely into apartment complexes.
A single approach for privatizing public property would not exist, and the process of privatizing the same or similar good or property would vary greatly. There would be thousands and thousands of different proposals and agreements met. Some resolutions would be rather straightforward and take the basic homesteading principal, while others would be debated for quite some time.
There would be a lot of failures and attempts to exploit the circumstance. These would diminish and be corrected with time and negotiation.
Interesting comments, Pepin. Thanks for pointing out that some roads would just be abandoned lest anyone should think that all roads have to be kept up.
I wonder if economic factors would actually cause people to migrate away from apartments/cities to more rural areas where you can at least try to grow your own food and not be too dependent on the food supply system?
I agree with your conclusion that privatizing public property would involve thousands and thousands of different proposals and agreements and that is why I started this thread. Waiting until the 'Fall' to hash out the principles of this conversion process will lead to a lot of failed attempts and disgruntled people who suddenly found that they'd be robbed by others taking advantage of the situation. One "disgruntled and armed" person can cause a lot of concern but it's more than conceivable that 100's of such people could wind up seeking restitution over an easily avoidable slight. That's a lot of concern!
Being new to this movement, I'm hoping to find that the best minds available have already hashed out the process and produced a basic shell from which each unique circumstance can be guided. I live in hope!
In my opinion as soon as public property ceases to exist, all the private property borders should extend on average to the public ones.
Eg: there is a public park surrounded by 10 private houses, the 10 private houses will divide the park equally between them. It could be shares or point system.
I've heard others talk about this way of dealing with the enclosed park. I wonder how many such parks exist? By what right do these homeowners have a claim to that property over an outsider who might wish to use the property for their own purposes. If one person gets up early and fences the property off completely for his own use, what moral/legal redress do the other claimants have?
As is true for any other public-owned property, what is to stop any one person from claiming any public plot of land as their's even if it's a complete section of an 8 lane freeway? I suggest that the only rule that will apply in the beginning is that of "might is right" and holding that bit of freeway will depend on the amount of force you can bring to bear versus the amount of force that others will bring to you.
I reckon an auction could be a good idea, then the most determined buyers would get the resources.
Not sure about settling the public debt though... The people who loaned money the government were gambling on good returns, and they didn't care that their money was being used to enable crimes.
Imagine some bank loaned a lot of money to the mafia, then the mafia went and murdered a bunch of people with weapons bought with that loan. Eventually when that mafia went "out of business", and their assets were auctioned off, I'd think the proceeds should go to the victims, not the enablers.
A victim restitution index could include:
Police and prison system victims
Public school victims
When the USSR collapsed, a small elite group of people gained a lot of assets, and the victims of communism got nothing. http://en.wikipedia....ation_in_Russia
I like your thinking here. Perhaps for something as "simple" as an access road to a closed neighborhood, the residents could agree to take bids for ownership of the road and sidewalks for which the owner would be required to provide an agreed level of maintenance, guarantee of unrestricted access in perpetuity, traffic control, etc in return for a regular contribution from each property for the duration of the contract. The owner wouldn't necessarily have to purchase the ownership but if they did, the distribution of the receipts would have to be agreed by all those with a clear interest.
If this idea were expanded to a through road, the number of interested parties and other complications would grow exponentially. It would seem to be an impossible task to resolve but perhaps would become easier if resolved on a municipality-wide basis through a task force appointed by the local population for the purpose. In this situation, the structure of the deliberations would be similar to any other public project with the exception of the monopoly of force.