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  1. Dr. Jordan Peterson Queens speech interrupted

    Oh, but didn't you get the memo? That's TOTALLY not a contradiction! Like, literally! /s (Does it even need to be said? XD)
  2. Brittany Pettibone --- UK.

    No private ownership is one thing, and it's certainly a core component of Socialism which strives for total collectivist ownership. But Socialism is still a very different beast from that one thing, and the UK may have dipped and dabbed in a few aspects of it (I've heard Tony Blair's administration described as "Socialist" recently) but it never fully embraced the utopian zeitgeist. Canada is a good example of this kind of situation. It has many socialized systems, and it's one of the better examples of the horrors of "creeping socialism", in that it's growing more and more socialist. But is it right now, or was it ever, at the state that the Soviet Union had arrived at anywhere between the 1920s to the 1970s? Not really. Granted, that doesn't mean I wish to defend the UK system, especially with these latest revelations and the conviction of Count Dankula (ironic, considering his expressed Communist leanings) adding more and more crap to an already nasty list. I really liked watching the videos of the debates from Thatcher's days, because it's so alien to what I'm used to, but that's about it for my appreciation of British governance. XD
  3. Dr. Jordan Peterson Queens speech interrupted

    Having finished the video now, I can say that it was a great speech (as always). But more importantly was what I took away from the videos of the protests outside afterward. For one thing, that queer person near the end was interesting. He/she was clearly a "gender-nonconforming" type (visible breasts, deep voice, etc), which you could say put him/her firmly on the same ideological side as the disrupting protestors, but was at the same time disappointed by the protest. Then there was that guy walking amidst the protestors handing out Pepsi, which just made me laugh out loud. That was genius. But the biggest takeaway from the end of the video for me was, whenever you heard the cheering and the chanting, there was a noteworthy pitch to their cries. A higher pitch. As I remember the infamous Milo speech where a group of feminists stood up to smear their faces with red paint as they decried "This man preaches hatred", then joined by a group of BLM supporters shouting their chant, only to be drowned out by a bunch of MAGA people chanting "Trump!" back... when you heard "Black lives matter!" in that confrontation, it was higher pitched, and when you heard "Trump! Trump! Trump!" in that same moment, it was distinctly lower pitch. Put simply, all the crazies were predominantly women, all the people NOT raising some kind of violent fuss were predominantly (non-effeminate) men. Like Stef says whenever he covers race and IQ, that he wishes with all his heart that these were not true, but that these facts are undeniably true, I wish it weren't the case that women seem to be the problem, but it looks undeniably the case that women (certainly in crowds) are the driving force behind all of the cultural problems of recent year. It's not just that they voted in the welfare state decades ago, they keep congregating and forming activist groups that push these far-leftist agendas, including all these disruptive protests and riots. I feel like what Neil Strauss described in "The Game" when he said that it was harder and harder to not become misogynist when a PUA learned more and more about human psychology and put it to work. Nowadays, when I hear the loud cheers of women, I can't help but think that whatever came before it was actually a bad idea. The recent Oscars certainly didn't help discount that notion.
  4. Dr. Jordan Peterson Queens speech interrupted

    Poe's Law is all about the satire being indistinguishable from that which it is satirizing. It comments on how ridiculous that which is being satirized is, despite being its legitimate claim. So these people are not being ironic, they are genuinely that ridiculous. Having grown up and been through American public education, both "before" it got bad, and returned to see what the college system had become "after" getting bad, I can say that these kids sincerely believe that EVERYTHING they're doing is just. They just don't realize that they're the violent ones, that they're the intolerant ones, that they're the evil ones. That's a huge reason for why I say that ignorance is the root of all evil, because these people are willfully ignoring ideas that could help them; they had to ignore to become what they are, and it is evil. Teachers were always insisting how evil the Nazis were, and they always called them Nazis, they only ever said what the nickname stemmed from a couple times, and most students almost immediately forgot it. They gave the students the ammunition, but never taught them how to maintain the rifle (to be briefly metaphoric). I can still remember a particular day in my freshman writing class when I was in high school- now decades ago (:shudders: Tempus Fugit, amirite?) -where the teacher introduced the concept of relativism vs universalism, and the phrase she gave as an example of these terms put into use were "it's all relative". INSTANTLY, whenever students were called on to address a question, and they didn't have a good answer, when the teacher pressed them, they smirked and said "it's all relative", and the class would laugh, and the student would give that wide shit-eating grin of someone who knew they'd gotten away with something bad, yet they were sincere. These kids latched onto the concept of relativism and used it as an escape from critical thinking from that day onward, because they saw an easy out. They didn't realize they were cheating themselves out of greater understanding, or that they were headed down a dark path that leads to much of where we are today, but they saw something that they liked, and they embraced it. The ones at these protests? They are these kids, years later, having metastasized their ideological cancer to the point that they don't know anymore what's right and what's wrong.... because it's all relative, ha! I don't think it's mislabeling in the slightest to call them demons.
  5. Brittany Pettibone --- UK.

    The trouble with this (obviously) is that it comes well into the future, in retrospect. The UK seems to be embracing all this thought-police stuff because it fought off Socialism in the past, it was not a Socialist state in the past. As the modern saying goes, the strongest anti-Communists today used to live under Communism. The Russians and the Chinese may have contempt for these acts now because having lived under the death camp called Communism, they know just how evil it is from firsthand experience, and meanwhile those who fought it, like the British, have begun to forget. Then again, the leaders of the Socialist sinking ship that is the EU is Merkel's Germany, and they were CERTAINLY members of a Socialist state, but perhaps the problem with them is that most of the people who lived it are dead, whereas there are still many who lived during the Soviet Union before its collapse in the late 80s?
  6. The 2/14/18 Florida HS Shooting

    Well it's more a matter of hardly anybody commenting on the topic than it was nobody mentioning that fact. Cause that came out well after most of these were stated. But yeah, it was just absurd. It reminds me of the stand-down orders given to university police during the Antifa riots while a non-leftist was trying to speak to an audience. Was the deputy given direct stand-down orders, or was he just that spineless? Who can say. Personally, I find that running-for-office level of obfuscation and evasiveness on the part of "Sheriff" Scott Israel to be the FAR more infuriating detail. I know many centrist or litertarian/conservative leaning minds like to say that more conservative-minded and protective people get into armed forces and law enforcement, and here's some bleeding heart politician spouting out phrases so absurd that even JAKE TAPPER has to call him on how nonsensical his "answers" are to his questioning. Just insane. Watched the video, and I have to say, I'm a bit skeptical of the claim that Whole Language is at the root of this problem. That's not to say that I think it should stay. But I think there's more of a problem going on with the public schools than the humiliation children are forced to endure for being put on the spot when they don't know something because they were taught so poorly. Maybe I'm only drawing from biased interpretations of "olden times" teaching, but I believe there was QUITE the spectacle of placing young children in front of the classroom, on a stool, meant to sit there for the rest of class, wearing a cone on there head with the word "dunce" on it if they got too many questions wrong. That's an OLD tradition of humiliation, so the current Progressive Education equivalent doesn't strike me as being particularly new or noteworthy. But the shift from seeing boys as boys to seeing boys as defective and in need of medicating for "acting out", the shift from structured teaching to "everybody matters" teaching, the shift to a heavy emphasis on unearned self-esteem, and the increasing government monopolization of education, are combined the major contributing factors to these school shooting phenomenons. That being said, the video only served to reinforce my belief that these schools have GOT to go. Appreciate the link!
  7. The 2/14/18 Florida HS Shooting

    Yet again, after some news-worthy thing happens, Matt Christiansen takes a crack at it, and explains a really great analysis of the popular response, good or bad related ideas, all while still maintaining some level of delightful entertainment. Check it out below: I didn't know that the media (again, don't watch TV anymore) had picked these 2 kids as their gun control darlings. Strikes me as really sick. Then as Matt points out, they completely avoid (deliberate lying by omission) the facts that Little Marco Rubio is open to policies to try to curb gun violence, in favor of painting him as some NRA-funded blood-on-his-hands evil Republican. When I think back to the things I believed when I was in high school, I shudder to think that those ideas could have been allowed to shape the world for generations to come. I'm glad I couldn't vote yet, cause my decisions would've been perilous. But for some reason these kids and their ambiguous "goals" are great ideas? Mleh...
  8. The 2/14/18 Florida HS Shooting

    I do think it telling how you can hear all about a particular "event" on certain news outlets, and dead silence on others. I remember walking past 2 different television sets sometime in the last year, and one channel was Maddow droning on and on about "the latest revelations about the Russia hack" and the other channel was Hannity discussing something completely different. It's funny to me how the opposite sides inhabit completely different universes. I heard about this yesterday because some people were murmuring about it at the office. Since I don't watch TV anymore, if other people weren't relaying what they took from listening to their TVs, I might have gone the whole day without even knowing that it happened. (What a world we could live in, if every aspiring sociopath knew that nobody would know what atrocities they could commit tomorrow, because nobody pays any attention to attention-whoring news outlets?) I immediately went to my preferred sources of information about the world: the "skeptosphere", trademark, and nobody had posted a single thing. Nothing from Stef. Nothing from Crowder. Nothing from Sargon. Etc etc. Naturally, my thoughts for WHY they had nothing was "they're taking their time to gather all the relevant, true facts (sad that we have to differentiate these from anything else), before they post anything incorrect." I could of course be wrong, and it could simply have been that they were slow on the uptake. But seeing as Stef ALWAYS comments on these events... later, and with all due caution and tact... I doubt it. I forget what the video was about, but I did watch something yesterday or the day before about an older "tragedy" in which the poster censored any and all mention of the perpetrator, and they even commented that they were deliberately avoiding naming or showcasing the person, because they didn't want them to get any attention. If but that were the norm...
  9. Post all relevant news and thoughts on this topic here. It's barely a few hours since it happened, and already that same, tired conveyor belt of pointless moral posturing can be seen all over the place. "Thoughts and prayers" tweets mixed with "senseless violence" and condemnations of what happened (Mitt Romney included the whole trifecta in a single tweet!) and of course lamentations that the NRA is to blame, Republicans have blood on their hands, the Republicans are NRA puppets, etc etc. Naturally the focus is that this is a shooting, and that guns are the problem. I had a thought just now when I was noting how this happens every time such a massacre takes place. The usual line goes something line this: "School shooting. Get rid of guns, no more school shootings!" My thought was more like this: "School shooting. Get rid of public schools, no more school shootings!" True, that thought is probably just as knee-jerk reactionary as everything else, and I probably felt that way simply because I was already firmly-opposed to public schooling, and I'm probably no more considerate to the pain and suffering that many people in Florida are going through as a result of this event. But I can't help but wonder if that might actually help prevent these such "tragedies" from occurring... It certainly doesn't exterminate the possibility of depraved souls shooting up private schools, or any congregation of crowds of people, but it might do many things that may lead to fewer of these events taking place. Whether from the public education system's erasure resulting in somewhat-more-balanced individuals, to there just being fewer kids congregated at these institutions, I can't help but feel that THIS is just as preferable of a "solution", and nobody seems to even fathom it a possibility... Last I've read, the shooter is in custody, and was an expelled student. I'm not sure how certain these facts are, but that's the latest that I'm aware of.
  10. Money(Fundamentally)

    I'm positive you completely missed the point of what I was saying. I never at ANY point stated (or even insinuated) that the PROCESS of weapons being created was never negative. I stated outright that the evolution of weapons from a primitive level to a modern level was, at its core, an advancement of technology, which is in and of itself neutral in purpose. As one of my favorite quotes puts it: "There's no such thing as 'a pirate ship'! Paint a skull and crossbones on the sails and it's a pirate ship. Paint a seagull on the sails and it's a marine ship." The pistol itself is not evil, it is merely a tool. Its utility and use- or more specifically, the intentions that went into these -are what can be construed as good or bad. The intention of the user determines the individual use of the tool, not the inventor, not the tool itself. It is just a tool, after all.
  11. Money(Fundamentally)

    Or..... they can get out of the way of their own citizens, and you'll find them QUITE capable of kicking out unwanted savages and implementing forms of protection from injurious institutions. I dunno, I'm pretty sure the American settlers kicked out some unwanted types without having fully formed a fully-fledged state to do it form them. But then again, that's just stuff taught in history books; could always be revisionism. It's a bit ironic that you followed a statement condemning over-reliance on government with this comment suggesting that we need to rely on government to do these particular things, as though free citizens couldn't do so on their own. But ironic is all it is; I don't think it's nefarious, or stupid, or offensive, or what-have-you of you to say it.
  12. Money(Fundamentally)

    It's important that we start at the right point, rather than begin on an assumption, only to find out halfway through the process that the assumption was false and only THEN do we realize that all our work has been formed off of a false pretense. Case in point: The idiom "the love of money is the root of all evil" is not some iron-clad absolute. As such, I'd say this is a VERY flimsy place to begin any philosophical conversation. The phrase has been bastardized and bastardized to the point that many people believe the saying is "money is the root of all evil", which when taught to children gets them to thinking that there's tiny aspects of malevolence inhabiting their pockets. It's absurd. So is "the love of money" being the actual source of "evil" more accurate? Highly doubtful, as this was more an idea put forth by societies that valued sacrifice and demonized materialism. If we were to attempt to pinpoint "the root of all evil", that could be a heft conversation with no end in sight. But I do know I plant my flag in the "ignorance is the root of all evil" camp. Although I do take a somewhat etymological approach to the definition of "ignorance" than most people seem to, these days. I don't equate the starting point we all share of "knowing nothing" with "ignorance", but rather what we might call "taking the blue pill" is what "ignorance" is better defined as. You are "ignoring" something, performing an act of discarding information that is presented to you, you are not simply unaware of the information. Thus I find that people actively disregarding knowledge are doing a "bad" thing, and after some necessary distillations and further explanations, I arrive at the claim that "ignorance is the root of all evil". But that's all besides the point. So about money... Although I'm aware of the taxation theory of money that Dylan Lawrence Moore seems to constantly allude to whenever he discusses finances, and I think it appears to be the correct theory on the origin of money, I'm not as cynical about the implications held within the assumption that money is originally derived from its utilities by states to impose taxes upon its citizens. As Siegfried von Walheim explained in his first post referring to the barter theory of money, it IS a more convenient unit of exchange than barter, and thus if it is indeed a creation of the state, it was an invention that people found much greater personal and private use than they found negatives associated with it. Better still, it's an invention that can be utilized in the ABSENCE of the state. Whereas the concept of taxes cannot be disassociated from the embodiment of the state, money can be. If a hypothetical "free society" were to establish itself, in the hyper-libertarian sense, and all of the land and borders and defenses were locally and privately owned, the people would be communicating their exchanges of personal property using a form of currency, whether money or fiat (most likely private bank money). Even if those units of money were immaterial, the confidence element (all economics are realistically the result of confidence, and everything else just provides the reason to have or lack confidence) would still be material. Liens would be contractually enforceable monetary assets used to secure property upon the collateral of other property. Private notes would be backed by some form of valuable. Theoretically, if a stateless society could exist, so could money. Money may have originated from states, but it is the pandora's box that states opened and can never close again. We now have the tool to use at our disposal, and they can never reclaim that from us. So in short: What is the stuff? It's a unit of value for the purposes of exchange. What in hell has it done to us? It's allowed for civilized societies to exist, with all the wonders and pitfalls that come with them. What should it do? It serves its intended function. Really the concerning questions are how big can you blow your bubble before it bursts. Currency was not the cause of the housing crisis of the last decade, but the transition from money to fiat certainly exacerbated the situation. Fiat is wildly less reliable than money, but it is also more useful in certain cases. Again, it allows for wonders and nightmares, depending on how it is used. The stick becoming the club becoming the sword becoming the cannon becoming the gun becoming the nuke is not in and of itself the terror... it's what is done with it. If you spend your hard-earned cash on a pen (or the modern equivalent being a device that allows you to connect to the internet) then you can use it to communicate with the outside world. You can also use it to spread misinformation and lies meant to damage other parties for nefarious purposes. Just because we see some negative aspects to the yang does not mean the yin isn't there.
  13. So a guy I used to work with back when I was doing retail heard a joke from our supervisor about how when he isn't getting what he wanted from his wife he smacks her and tells her to make him a sandwich. Then the guy stopped showing up to work. Turns out, he thought the joke was advice, and went home and beat his wife then asked for a meal, and instead she called the cops and he was arrested. True story. The moral of the story, and why that has ANY relevance to the above quote? It's this: There are people who cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality, and they're the problem, not the fantasy itself. Too many people see spy thrillers or cop dramas and they erroneously believe these are accurate representations of real life. Some guys watch porn and assume if they parrot the exact same corny lines that they'll suddenly be involved in a steamy orgy. At the end of the day, yes, as long as everyone agrees, we're all good. Some clueless guys will get lucky and their mistake of interpreting fantasy as real advice WILL actually pay off. Chances are most won't have such good fortune. Personally, porn use to me is no different than any hobby or habit. You can take it too far, you can let it rule your life and even ruin your life, or you can enjoy it casually every now and then and it will have a benign influence on you. There's a HUGE gap between "consumption" and "over-consumption", just as there's a wide gulf between "responsibility" and "recklessness".
  14. Social engineering of men in the western world

    Anytime I see people either dismissed as "conspiracy theorists" by a critical crowd, or someone trying to defend what they're asserting by saying "I'm not a conspiracy theorist", I'm reminded of a comment made in some video in some program about some thing said by somebody, and none of which I can remember. But the comment was something along the lines of this: "It's not a conspiracy, but it's a series of converging conflicts of interest." Essentially, many times the things that are lambasted as being "conspiracy wacko fantasies" are actually recognition of negative feedback loops, or converging interests, or something that isn't so much a sinister conspiracy, as much as a terrible series of unintended accidents made by people who had no idea what they were doing... but thought that they did. Soy products leading to a massive health epidemic was by no means social engineering, any more than contractors were conspiring to kill off their customers by installing asbestos in their buildings in the 30s through to the 50s. Most of the time, the market generates a demand for a product, only for us to realize WELL after the long-time acceptance of that product, that the product is actually bad- or even dangerous! Cigarettes were popular for decades without anyone so much as suspecting that they had deleterious effects on ones health. It wasn't a conspiracy, just a society-wide mistake in choices. Now more people know the harmful impact of smoking, and some choose to do it anyway because of the benefits in spite of the negatives, and others choose to avoid it specifically because of knowledge of the potential harm. Soy this and soy that and soy those aren't deliberate measures to turn men into effeminate betas and destabilize the nuclear family... even though consumption of these products is leading to hyper-feminization of people resulting in excess negativity and social breakdown. These are just products that flooded the market which we are now learning have very severe drawbacks and are responding to in kind. Another example of non-conspiratorial-but-not-healthy food-additives is fluoride in the drinking water- if you're a fan of Info-Wars you're no doubt VERY familiar with this claim. Supposedly a chemical known to cause brain damage is being pumped into our water supply to dumb us down. The reality is there is a superstition attached to fluoride that it helps prevent cavities, so it's added to water for that very reason. Rhinos are threatened because of the black market for their horns specifically because so many Chinese falsely believe Rhino horns are miracle panacea that can cure many things such as illness to sterility. The sad truth is that there are plenty of "well-informed" people in the west who are anything but, and just as subject to superstitious beliefs, and act according to those mistaken ideas. The good news is fluoride is EASY to filter out of your drinking water, and even if you don't, it takes a TON of ingestion of the stuff to start to see any lasting damage. No conspiracies here. Baby formula is just the natural response from a culture that wants to detach its women from their nurturing roles. It's not a fiendish plot, but a conscious decision by individuals to provide a service that can replace a mother staying at home. They had the best of intentions, but they were grievously wrong. It wasn't a conspiracy though. Bottom line, there's bad stuff out there, and the more we know about it so we can make better-educated decisions, the better off we'll be! But these things aren't part of any conspiracy. Just people making bad decisions... not to downplay the pivotal role in bad decisions bringing down civilizations, though. By all means, take these problems seriously! Bilderberg, on the other hand, NOW we're talking conspiracies...
  15. Well I was rather encouraged when I saw Jordan Peterson's video breaking down the entire situation at Laurier University, and joining him were two teachers, at least one (or was it both?) who taught at that very university. So it was relieving to see that some of them are seeing the trouble and realizing that it's not good. But the flow still seems to be going in the direction that it is...

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