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  1. Thought the message was all the more "powerful?" (perhaps not the appropriate word) for being non-dualistic.
  2. RichardY

    End of the internet?

    Something like Steam would be cool, pay 5p - 10p a video, add up pretty fast. Or a Doomsday Machine. Strangelove : Mr. President, the technology required is easily within the means of even the smallest nuclear power. It requires only the will to do so. Muffley: But, how is it possible for this thing to be triggered automatically, and at the same time impossible to untrigger? Strangelove: Mr. President, it is not only possible, it is essential. That is the whole idea of this machine, you know. Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy… the fear to attack. And so, because of the automated and irrevocable decision making process which rules out human meddling, the doomsday machine is terrifying. It’s simple to understand. And completely credible, and convincing. … Muffley: But this is fantastic, Strangelove. How can it be triggered automatically? Strangelove: Well, it’s remarkably simple to do that. When you merely wish to bury bombs, there is no limit to the size. After that they are connected to a gigantic complex of computers. Now then, a specific and clearly defined set of circumstances, under which the bombs are to be exploded, is programmed into a tape memory bank.
  3. @dataguy Old boys club. Collectivist mindset. You can't play by their rules, which are contradictory. What to do, not really sure, a lot of thoughts come to mind...., productive action other than what Stefan is doing??? Some coordination might be helpful. For the most part I don't think it is intentional, but unconscious. Whats annoying sometimes is when collectivists contradict themselves within the same sentence or paragraph. Like with the concentration camps, killing individuals. Cubans, Boers and Europeans. None of my relatives were killed, not that I have that many. Had a grandfather POW(was a pilot), that was going to be shipped to the gas chambers at Leipzig before the train tracks were bombed by the RAF. Was interesting reading his diary that the behaviour of the station attendants was similar("friendly"), as described in a similar situation "Mans Search for Meaning" Vicktor Frankl, though the people weren't as fortunate, pretty horrific reading the book.
  4. Government could help to increase the number of slaves as a form of money? Romans or modern day China. Haul back Silver & Gold in massive treasure ships like with the Spanish Empire, as referenced in "The Wealth of Nations". That would increase the money supply, lower interest rates, but potentially increase inflation, cause stagnation technologically and upset some people. If government did help to increase the money supply, what would be worth spending it on? I guess drugs could be used as a form of money, the addictive properties of some making it useful currency. Tobacco sometimes was used as currency.
  5. RichardY

    Meaning in Science

    @perrymiller821 Sound a bit like Renfield from Dracula, with obsession about life. --------------- He was interrupted by a word from the Professor, ‘How?’‘ By making them happen. Just as he used to send in the flies when the sun was shining. Great big fat ones with steel and sapphire on their wings. And big moths, in the night, with skull and cross-bones on their backs.’ Van Helsing nodded to him as he whispered to me unconsciously,‘The Acherontia Atropos of the Sphinges, what you call the ‘Death’s-head Moth’?’ The patient went on without stopping, ‘Then he began to whisper.‘Rats, rats, rats! Hundreds, thousands, millions of them, and every one a life. And dogs to eat them, and cats too. All lives! All red blood, with years of life in it, and not merely buzzing flies!’ I laughed at him, for I wanted to see what he could do. Then the dogs howled, away beyond the dark trees in His house. He beckoned me to the window. I got up and looked out, and He raised his hands, and seemed to call out without using any words. A dark mass spread over the grass, coming on like the shape of a flame of fire. And then He moved the mist to the right and left, and I could see that there were thousands of rats with their eyes blazing red, like His only smaller. He held up his hand, and they all stopped, and I thought he seemed to be saying, ‘All these lives will I give you, ay, and many more and greater, through countless ages, if you will fall down and worship me!’ ------------------------------------- So are you arguing for some kind of Immanent God?
  6. Yes that would accurate, almost. Where useful and real collide and one takes precedent, I think you have either a "Brute" force Will to Power(useful) or a Psychopath(real). Overhead: Yeah the reliance on centralised banking and financial institutions, just seems insane to me. Have a cousin who works on designing transaction software for a bank. I think of all the large institutions in London and plethora of offices & servers, and think of how wasteful to have all that stuff. I mean probably a lot of it is bleed over from the inefficiency and corruption of the state. If things were still largely done on paper record, Armageddon. ------------------- Unit of Account. I mean there was Goldcoin or something but it got shutdown very quickly, would have thought merchants would be pretty quick to try and stabilise price fluctuations against a tangible asset. My knowledge of finance is pretty limited, but isn't a big problem with the current fiat system that derivatives are used to try and stabilise rates. Perhaps this is where Bitcoin can be useful as a "deflationary asset" as you said. However, why wouldn't someone subdivide a bitcoin? Wouldn't that effectively nullify the deflation. It would have to takeover completely as THE unit of account? Projection Yeah I would say Bitcoin is real, even though it's perhaps the wrong question to ask. I think what puts me off is despite the various innovations in finance. It relies on projection, not good or bad in itself. Into the psychological domain, which will make or break bitcoin/Civilization. I think this area is key, hardly have any understanding. The mechanism. Maybe if bitcoin helps make processing real quick, everyone can use non propriety applications and formats an open style version of excel! I saw a documentary on Google once that they were doing a lot of their information keeping on Excel, before they got a CEO. I mean they use linux a lot on airplanes when watching movies. I guess a lot of it has to do with the sweet deal Oracle has got going with state contracts? Nassim Taleb. I listened to his book "Skin in the Game". a while a go, after I heard it recommended listening to another book "Thinking Fast & Slow". (Daniel Kahemann, a friend or something of Nassim). Was basically about inductive and deductive thinking. System one (inductive) Thinking Fast. System Two (deductive) Thinking slow. To further elaborate on my own inductions. I think System Two (Extroverted) is Executive and objective thinking revolving around certainty, but also collectivist in nature. High Conscientiousness. Low Neural activity with potential to ramp up. Extreme case Psychopath. Where as System One (Introverted) the older system is subjective thinking and individualistic, survival orientated, Low Conscientiousness. High Neural Activity. Extreme case Schizophrenic. Personally more system one dominant. However given the present overwhelming advantage of executive thinking for the last several hundred years. As technology has advanced and been widely recorded. Makes more sense evolutionary to slave greater numbers of minds together (System 2) for the gain in processing power, even if they maybe in error or depraved, unless it ends up in resulting in a catastrophic crash. Was thinking about listening to "Black Swan" so I think I'll probably do that sometime. I thought his critique of Kant was interesting in "Skin in the Game" and I agree with the sentiment of the book. Buying Bitcoin Makes sense that another crash or the crash has been only temporarily postponed the way things continue to go. That Bitcoin may have more practical & psychological interest relative to the dollar. Although if Trump is successful in re-negoitating with the Chinese, perhaps a soft landing rather than a hard one. I guess if society were more stable the dollar would be doomed as an alternative to Bitcoin. But if society were stable, I think alternatives such as energy as currency would be more widely considered. Bitcoin Plutocracy- I would agree with Aristotle that an Aristocracy is based on education. If Bitcoin were to lead to a Plutocracy instead of Aristocracy, through market share, that would be much worse than the current financial situation, imo for everyone. Personally I don't mind having a budget utilitarian smartphone and various other possessions. Although some have to have the latest apple iphone or Samsung Galaxy etc Primarily for the status symbol. What experiences could someone have with a billion dollars that they can't have with a million or far far less? My point being that relative abundance and availability of wealth that has increased massively, nullifies a Plutocracy, which can only be maintained by the infliction of various kinds of suffering and/or a general deprivation of goods. 1. I think that would depend on if the "mint" premium of bitcoin, is sufficient compensation/reward to warrant the risk of a non secure asset. 2. I would say substance takes precedent over tangibility, gold certificates as more practical and substantive than physical gold. When you say dealing with inflation risk, how is subdividing a bitcoin not an inflation risk? And why wouldn't a bank carry on with fractional reserve banking in one form or another. The Rothbardian Anarcho-Capitalist position requires 100% capital reserves. How is such a system possible with Bitcoin? 3. I would say your level of financial acumen is superior to mine. I don't think you are being condescending or in anyway unprofessional. Google helps with terminology. I've read Von Mises Human Action and some of a "theory of money and credit" a while a go. The rest of my knowledge various podcasts, videos, articles etc. 4. I would say no, it is subjective. In terms of extrinsic value of PM's I suppose you could make a mirror out of them, get a nice tan. However, bitcoin does rely on a collectivist mindset in order to succeed. Where as PM's have the sexual market magpie value usually, not to mention numerous technological uses, in addition to other qualities that make it useful as money. If there were a BitGold........, why wouldn't that take a precedent to a purely real solution. Lot to take in and process, muse over, or not.
  7. Hurrah Collectivism. No individualistic settling of disputes, just massive tribal warfare. Bulk of the world being collectivist. Unconscious bias. Given modern technology and lack of geographical separation. Collectivism winning big time. Some ability to choose between Left and Right, virtually none between collectivism and individualism.
  8. @Freedom4the The essential quality of a philosopher is trust. Just as the essential quality of a Christian is faith. It is the spirit that matters, and not the content. Why so much focus and action on peaceful parenting and education? Not that audio books aren't a help, in furthering understanding. Henry David Thoreau, David Hume, & Bram Stroker. Helped to crystallise the idea of trust to me being a quality of a philosopher. Which is why Nietzsche is a Philologist & Psychologist, but not a philosopher, he does not trust. Is to trust more exhausting, than not to? How many lecturers and professors trust to speak publicly and openly about things they know to be true and important to civilization?
  9. RichardY

    Instinct as evidence

    @barnJust find it frustrating that there seem to be so few sources to learn from. Why have only two people on a video or on a stage debating, discussing. When a forum permits many. I think it would be better if there was some form of feedback with votes. A better user interface, although the layout of this forum is pleasant on the eye. Thinking of how developed video games are, compared to forum software. To lock horns & cooperate. I don't get why forums like reddit and many others are so popular.
  10. Instead of trying to be the highest intelligence. Why not just accept there were people, however flawed, that were imo much more intelligent than modern man. Yeah ok they were human, but they're dead. Even though what they wrote remains, the intelligence has lived on. My point is to think of contemporary humanity as a high point in intelligence, and not some other entity, be it God, Consciousness, Ancients or Aliens. Would be a mistake, instead of trying to assume the mantle. You perhaps can be intelligent by assimilating knowledge, even if you're not fully conscious of it.
  11. RichardY

    australia and new zealand shows...

    There was even a video(think it's been removed) on one of the "news sites" showing a picture of a load of worms then Stefan on the stage speaking at an event.(muted) Utterly bizarre and disturbing. Alt Right, Far Right. Lies upon lies. Impossible to make an argument or have a speech, totally flies in the face of the notion of freewill, like a load of zombies.
  12. RichardY

    Instinct as evidence

    The Scorpion and the Frog A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too." The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?" Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature... --------------------- I remember Stefan mentioning in a fairly recent video he had a friend who bred dogs, his friend said that he wouldn't breed a dog that bites or fails the sh*t test. Although by breeding the more vicious elements out of a creature, it can become more susceptible to exploitation. ---------------------------- @barn I did not vote down your post. But, I do find many of your posts fragmented and hard to follow, in terms of layout and sentence structure. I did consider voting down your posts, but have not found reason to do so. Enthusiasm for posting, personable. Although I tend not to be personable, sometimes outright tactless. Said the food wasn't very good at a wedding once to the Bride & Groom. (too many butter beans and square plates). Usually I ignore your posts. I found accusations of doubling down a while a go annoying. Generally prefer to stick to the topic, although open to various exploits or insights of people. I wouldn't assume warmth from me or trust. Generally indifferent to praise, criticism is fine as long as it's not concern trolling and is constructive. I don't mind focusing on various abstract collaborative topics, although prefer it be focused on the topic. "you of all people". does not endear me to help, even if everything else is positive and praiseful in a message.
  13. RichardY

    australia and new zealand shows...

    Bad as the UK changing laws to ban Nationalist MEP's after they've been elected. "One does not simply walk into a venue in New Zealand." Lauren Southern on Twitter. Moral courage and sanity, is there anything rarer?
  14. Was thinking that god is not moral. If God created Satan, Lucifer, The Devil... whatever flavour. And that The Devil, was created perfect. In what way was he, the devil perfect? What does perfect even mean? Perhaps God is imperfect. Perhaps perfection is moral perfection? I say that God is not moral and can not be moral, if he is omniscient. As well, as attributed atrocities, and Commandments; not a moral explanation. Also, the book of Job, is cited by Carl Jung as an example of projection. Whereby God projects on to Job, his power and authority. Instead, what if the Devil is moral? Why fear the Devil? If you've done nothing wrong, at least perhaps, not consciously aware of wrong doings. If a force of nature of God or the Devil, what can be done about it, except provision. The Devil is not omniscient, but is omnipotent. - If he were omniscient, he could not be moral. God is omniscient, but not omnipotent. - If God is everything or omniscient, how is omnipotent an issue? ------------------------------------------- Ezekiel 28 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. Mathew 5 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. John 8 28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. 30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. 48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? 49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. 50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. 51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

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