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A critique of Stefan Molyneux's Discussion with Stephan Kinsella

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If the child understands that her
mother is willing to respect the child's wishes within her financial
means while keeping the child safe, then I could easily imagine that the  
child might find public school less palatable than some other imaginary
option but accept the fact that other options aren't viable.


If the child can process and accept all this, he/she is no longer a child. That is the central challenge.

Then, is a child only a "pre-rational creature" ?

Why would it be binary?


Are not if...then statements binary?  I gathered that you were saying that if a child understands a mother's reason for her actions, then he/she is no longer a child.  Did I misunderstand you?  I am merely curious on when you think this transition occurs.

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I think I understand the challenges here - what if a poor single parent has to send her child to public school because she has to work, and her child does not want to go, is that force?

These kinds of issues show up a lot in parenting - parental necessity versus child's preferences...

This is certainly quite a challenge for sure.

I think I would have had a much better experience in public school despite its big problems had my parents treated me with respect and kindness when I was at home.

But it's really not parental necessity. It's a choice. Anyone with an IQ over 75 can look into the future and project their own income potential and living situations to at least some rough range of probability (random disasters notwithstanding, of course).

In otherwords, the force occurs long before the child does. Choosing to bring a child into an environment where you know you're going to have to turn them over to an evil because your life has already been diminished to the point that independence from it is probabilistically unlikely, may not be evil in and of itself, but it's pretty close, in my view.

Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, it's depressing. Yeah, it's harsh. And yeah, that condemns millions who would love to have children of their own into the dichotomy of barren living versus surrender to evil. But I'm not the one who created that situation. I'm just pointing it out.


[notworthy] Very well put Greg.

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