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  • Tue, Feb 28 2006 10:33 AM

    The origin of all things?

    Whenever I argue against the existence of God with Christians or non-Christians who are still hanging on to a belief in God, they always bring up the mystery of the existence of life, the universe, etc.

    Personally, I don't care where the universe, the world, or life came from, because it doesn't matter to me.  Does anyone else feel the same way?  Does it matter to anyone else how we came to be?  I have no problem theorizing, but like pondering the vastness of space, my mind is blown pretty quickly and I give up.

    Also, what is everyone's opinion of infinity?  Do we even need to bother ourselves thinking about when something started or when it will end?

    Sorry for the crazy questions, but I'm in between classes and I'm trying to squeeze out any remaining drops of my school curriculum.

  • Tue, Feb 28 2006 12:16 PM In reply to

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    Infinity is a mathematical abstraction. It's nice for the imagination but that's all it is. A construct. Just like "God". ;)

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  • Tue, Feb 28 2006 2:04 PM In reply to

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     Francois Tremblay wrote:
    Infinity is a mathematical abstraction. It's nice for the imagination but that's all it is. A construct. Just like "God". ;)


    Well, that would explain why it's so confusing. =]

  • Tue, Feb 28 2006 10:35 PM In reply to

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    No, I'm with you there brother! It's interesting in a kind of abstract way when you're young to think about the eternity and infinity and hugeness of the universe, but it really doesn't matter that much at all when it comes to actually living your life. I find astronomy and physics fascinating -- as a rank amateur of course -- but I can't say that it has much relevance to my day to day existence.

    Sure, it's a mystery, to some degree, but it certainly isn't a mystery that is solved by invoking the 'existence' of some unimaginable being, who has created the universe and life for some incomprehensible purpose as part of the fulfillment of some ineffable plan that we will never be able to understand. If people want life and the universe to be a mystery, then let them leave it as a mystery, and not make up insane theories and claim that they have explained anything!

    Well that's my take on it anyway! Great question, though.

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    No, I'm with you there brother! It's interesting in a kind of abstract way when you're young to think about the eternity and infinity and hugeness of the universe, but it really doesn't matter that much at all when it comes to actually living your life. I find astronomy and physics fascinating -- as a rank amateur of course -- but I can't say that it has much relevance to my day to day existence.

    Sure, it's a mystery, to some degree, but it certainly isn't a mystery that is solved by invoking the 'existence' of some unimaginable being, who has created the universe and life for some incomprehensible purpose as part of the fulfillment of some ineffable plan that we will never be able to understand. If people want life and the universe to be a mystery, then let them leave it as a mystery, and not make up insane theories and claim that they have explained anything!

    Well that's my take on it anyway! Great question, though.

    Right!  Attempting to explain something like the origin of the universe by constructing a mythical creature and mythical creation stories seems to only confuse the quest for the truth.

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  • Mon, Mar 20 2006 10:21 PM In reply to

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    the mystery of the existence of life, the universe, etc.


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  • Tue, Mar 21 2006 7:33 AM In reply to

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  • Tue, Jan 31 2012 2:06 AM In reply to

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    Francois Tremblay:
    Infinity is a mathematical abstraction. It's nice for the imagination but that's all it is. A construct. Just like "God". ;)

     

    Would you care to back up your claim that infinity is just a "mathematical abstraction"?

  • Tue, Jan 31 2012 4:44 AM In reply to

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    Francois Tremblay:
    Infinity is a mathematical abstraction. It's nice for the imagination but that's all it is. A construct. Just like "God". ;)

     

    Would you care to back up your claim that infinity is just a "mathematical abstraction"?

    That comment is 6 years old, and the op no longer contributes here.

     

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