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  • Thu, Feb 9 2012 11:53 PM

    Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    likes, 2,766 dislikes at the time I watched it

    The majority of the comments are just as disturbing as the video and here are some of the worst ones I saw:

     

    "You sir, are a hero."

    "Father of the year. You, sir, are an amazing man and will eventually have an amazing daughter because of your zero tolerance policy to her insanely selfish and entitled attitude. My hat is off to you, sir. I can only hope I do as clean a job when mine reach that age."

    "he should wrap it back up and give it to her after he shot it lol"

    ".45 exploding hollow points were a bit much,but hey if the daughter is paying for it...this is how you do it.parenting is absolutely hell kids are evil,stubborn,pigheaded,self centered, cruel and for all intents and purposes totally fucking insane!!.the kid was warned once!.I dont know who you are mister but id like to nominate you for president! you seem to know how to get shit done!"

    "FINE parenting, sir! We need more fathers like you in this world!"

    "This man has all of my praise! He did this right, and if anything, came out like a BADASS for shooting that laptop with his .45. Props to him, and all my respect!"

    "HAHAHA Go old school on these kids, give em the real hell, I remember the team before groundings and we got ass beatings."

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 4:25 AM In reply to

    • Logos
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    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    I disagree, the video itself is an appropriate response to an irrational child choosing irrational actions. While the parenting is not ideal the teenagers actions are equally reprehensible.

    Remember, Im assumiming no abuse is taking place at home which could have provoced the teenager.

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  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 4:37 AM In reply to

    • Renza
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    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    What is he doing with the cigarette?? Confused

    OMG, that's a gun!! 

    I can't stand him. Sad

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 7:59 AM In reply to

    • Luis A.
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    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    Andersfilosof:

     

    The majority of the comments are just as disturbing as the video...

    Many of the video responses also are. One of the scary facts about it is that some of these video responses are made by other teenagers, only a couple of years older then his daugther.

    The only videos I found that actually condemned what he did in the video had more dislikes then likes.

    Now I wonder how exactly does this man imagine his daughter will ever want or be able to have any sort of relationship with him.

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  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 9:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    Ugh... the comments are so depressing.  The top comment when I clicked on the video was this...

    "Step 1: Children do NOT need cell phones.

    Step 2: Children do NOT need cars until 18.

    Step 3: Beat them.

    Step 4: Repeat"

    Sad

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 11:12 AM In reply to

    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    Logos:

    I disagree, the video itself is an appropriate response to an irrational child choosing irrational actions. While the parenting is not ideal the teenagers actions are equally reprehensible.

    "an irrational child choosing irrational actions?" What's irrational about a teenager venting on a Facebook post?

    "parenting is not ideal..." No, the parenting is violent and reprehensible. The father, who has had all the power in the relationship for 15 years, just implicitly threatened his daughter with a gun. 

    Logos:
    Remember, Im assumiming no abuse is taking place at home which could have provoced the teenager.

    After watching this video, that assumption is almost undoubtedly a bad one. I'm sure this guy has "shown her the back of his hand" a few times.

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 11:31 AM In reply to

    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    When I first saw the headline on msnbc.com I had a hard time believeing it until I clicked on it and realized there was even a video of it. That man is fit for a straight jacket and I'd consider it a new low for parenting.

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 11:32 AM In reply to

    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    As I posted I the other thread about this, Mat Honan of Gizmodo is doing what he can to get this girl a new laptop. 

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 11:49 AM In reply to

    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    Greg Minton:

    As I posted I the other thread about this, Mat Honan of Gizmodo is doing what he can to get this girl a new laptop. 

    Laptop? What this girl needs is a lawyer to get her emancipated.

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 12:10 PM In reply to

    • GregG
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    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    Nathan T. Freeman:

    Greg Minton:

    As I posted I the other thread about this, Mat Honan of Gizmodo is doing what he can to get this girl a new laptop. 

    Laptop? What this girl needs is a lawyer to get her emancipated.

    Yes

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 12:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    I don't like this man's behaviour on Youtube, so I'm going to shoot at his camera!! I wonder if I would be considered a hero by the same people who are admiring him! Confused

     

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 12:59 PM In reply to

    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    Parents have children in part so they can have free help around the house.  In itself that's not the worst thing in the world, but when the neutral medium of money in such a transaction is removed it is unfortunately replaced with guilt and emotional blackmail. 

    Imagine how unpleasant life would be if everyone of us who has a job working for someone else didn't get paid in money but rather was caught up in an emotionally-charged obligation and guilt relationship.  It would be a living hell!  You only do things gratis for people because you LIKE and respect them.  If there's no mutual friendship back and forth between the two parties then you need money to grease the wheels.

    The guy in the video has apparently not laid the groundwork for such a mutal exchange to occur with his daughter.  Then he busts out the firearms, but the only holes he's really made are in his own case.

    I don't know what that kind of parenting looks like, because nobody I know really received it; but I assume it's possible because I do free "chores" for people I like.  I bet you'd rather help your FRIEND move out of an apartment than help your DAD with some chore.  Your friends won't give you some heavy-hearted guilt trip over it.

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  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 1:47 PM In reply to

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    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    Gee, I wonder where she learned that the best way to respond to relationship problems was to make a big, public scene with lots of dramatic flair, and complain a lot. 

    I wonder where she developed the tendency to complain about being under-appreciated. 

    It's a mystery.

    Anyway, the part that jumped out at me was where he recited her domestic responsibilities, which I identified as floor-sweeping, counter-wiping, dishes, doing her own laundry and making her own bed.  All in all, that's not a heavy responsibility for any able-bodied person, and not too much to expect from a teenager.  His motivation skills need work, but on that point, it seems that the daughter's labor burdens are not exceptionally high.

    I notice, though, that as he was busy justifying his behavior, he conspicuously left out one of his daughter's domestic obligations -- getting his father coffee. It seemed a major point of contention. 

    I assume getting him coffee is a lot more than getting coffee.  It's symbolic.  It's a gesture that is designed to subordinate her.  To establish, on a daily basis and first thing in the morning, who is socially superior and who is inferior. 

    My guess is that their relationship would greatly improve without the continuous, daily humiliation rituals.

    “I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces.”

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  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 2:19 PM In reply to

    • Renza
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    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    The worst part are the comments; the quantity of them. I mean, what is the percentage of people like the ones you find in FDR? 

    This makes me feel so desperately alone; it's terrifying. 

  • Fri, Feb 10 2012 3:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Disgusting Display of Parental Self-Righteousness

    1. Respect must be earned, not automatic because he is father.

    2. He had no right to read her private post.

    3. He had no right to destroy her property.

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