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  • Sun, Sep 21 2008 8:57 AM

    Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    I cannot guarantee the truth of all of this, but it is interesting -- if scary -- reading.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10167

     

    Some days ago, most Americans had never heard of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. Now, following her Vice Presidential acceptance speech, viewed live by more than 40 million people, Palin is viewed favorably by 58% of American voters according to the latest Rasmussen Reports survey. The self-described ‘hockey mom’’s poll ratings, if they are to be believed, are that of a rock superstar who is rated now higher than either McCain or Democrat Obama. The same Bush-Cheney propaganda apparatus that made the nation believe that Saddam Hussein was the new Hitler and that Georgia was a helpless victim of ruthless Russian aggression after 8.8.08 in Georgia is clearly behind one of the most impressive media propaganda efforts in recent history—the effort to package Republican Vice Presidential candidate, Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska for less than 19 months, to be the American dream candidate. Her religious roots are something she has been deliberately vague about. It’s worth a closer look.

    As I discuss in some detail in my soon-to-be-released book, Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order, one of the most significant transformations of American domestic politics over the past three decades since the early 1970’s, when George H.W. Bush was head of the CIA, has been the deliberate manipulation of significant segments of the population, most of them undoubtedly sincere believing people, around the ideology of ‘born-again’ evangelical Christian Fundamentalism to create something known as the Christian Right. Within the broad spectrum of fundamentalist denominations there are some currents which are particularly alarming. Sarah Palin comes out of such a milieu.

    The phenomenon of the rapid spread within the United States since the 1980’s of evangelical Pentecostalism is a political phenomenon which has become so influential that the two elections of George W. Bush as well as countless races for Senate or Congress often depend on the backing or lack of it from the organized Religious Right.

    The spawning of some Christian Right sects also creates an ideology to drive the shock troops willing to literally ‘die for Christ’ in places such as Iraq or Afghanistan, Iran or elsewhere that the Pentagon needs their services. That ideology has been used to build a fanatical activist base within the Republican Party which backs a right-wing domestic agenda and a military foreign policy that sees Islam or other suitable opponents of the US power elite as Satanism incarnate. How does Sarah Palin fit into this?

    The CNP: manipulating religion to political ends

    Many of the religious evangelical groups in America are coordinated top-down by a secretive organization called the Committee on National Policy. Former close Bush adviser, Rev. Ted Haggard, was a member of the Committee on National Policy until a sex and drugs scandal forced him out in late 2006.

    Haggard was Pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs described as the ‘evangelical Vatican,’ and was head of the National Association of Evangelicals. Ted Haggard was also a member of a highly significant and little-understood sect known as Joel’s Army or the Manifest Sons of God, the same circles which spawned Sarah Palin.

    Another noteworthy member of the CNP as was Grover Norquist, the man once described as the ‘Field Marshall of the Bush Plan.’

    The CNP, created in the early 1980’s during the Reagan era, is the nexus for several odd and quite powerful organizations. It was described by ABC's Marc J. Ambinder as ‘the conservative version of the Council on Foreign Relations.’ CNP Members include names such as General John Singlaub, shipping magnate J. Peter Grace, Texas billionaire Nelson Bunker Hunt, Edwin J. Feulner Jr of the right-wing Heritage Foundation, Rev. Pat Robertson of the Christian Broadcasting Network, Jerry Falwell, Tim LaHaye and most of the prominent names in the Christian Right around Bush. It has included prominent politicians including Senator Trent Lott, Senator Don Nickles, former Attorney General Ed Meese, Col. Oliver North of Iran-Contra fame, and Right-wing philanthropist Else Prince, mother of Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater the controversial private security firm.1

    CNP members have also included not only the Rev. Sun Myung Moon Unification Church, definitely a bizarre formation whose founder openly states that he is superior to Christ. The CNP as well reportedly includes the Church of Scientology.2

    CNP member and GOP strategist, Gary Bauer, links both. Bauer’s Family Research Council was a signatory of the Scientology Pledge to remove psychology from California schools and replace it with L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics. Bauer was also a speaker at Sun Myung Moon's Family Federation for World Peace and Unification Conference in 1996.

    Religious researchers Paul and Phillip Collins describe the CNP as follows: ‘The CNP appears to be a creation of factions of the power elite designed to mobilize well-meaning Christians to unwittingly support elite initiatives. The CNP could also be considered a project in religious engineering that empties Christianity of its metaphysical substance and re-conceptualizes many of its principles and concepts according to the socially and politically expedient designs of the elite. These contentions are supported by the fact that many CNP members are also members of other organizations and/or criminal enterprises that are tied directly to the power elite.’3

    In order to shape public debate over the course of national military and foreign as well as domestic policy, the US establishment had to create mass-based organizations to manipulate public opinion in ways contrary to the self-interest of the majority of the American people. The Committee on National Policy was formed to be a central part of this mass manipulation.

    The Committee on National Policy is a vital link between multi-billion dollar defense contractors, Washington lobbyists like the convicted felon and Republican fundraiser, Jack Abramoff, and the Christian Right. It’s at the heart of a new axis between right-wing military politics, support for the Pentagon war agenda globally and the neo-conservative political control of much of US foreign and defense policy.

    The CNP has been at the center of Karl Rove’s carefully-constructed Bush political machine. Tom Delay and dozens of top Bush Administration Republicans are or had been members of the CNP. Few details about the organization are leaked to the public. As secretive as the Bilderberg Group if not more so, the CNP releases no press statements, meets in secret and never reveals names of its members willingly.

    The elite circles behind the Bush Presidency have crafted an extremely powerful political machine using the forces and energies of the Christian Right and millions of American Christians unaware of the darker manipulations. Is Sarah Palin a part of such darker manipulations?

    Sarah Palin and Dominionism

    Sarah Palin it appears now, was chosen very carefully as she comes out of the very fundamentalist evangelical circles that the CNP uses to mobilize and shape America’s political agenda.

    Palin reportedly drew early attention from state GOP leadership when, during her first mayoral campaign, she ran on an anti-abortion platform. Normally, political parties do not get involved in Alaskan municipal elections because they are nonpartisan. But once word of her evangelical views made its way to Juneau, the state capitol, state Republicans put money behind her campaign. According to researcher, Charley James, "Once in office, Palin set out to build a machine that chewed up anyone who got in her way. The good, Godly Christian turns out to be anything but."

    The religious background of Sarah Palin is not unrelated to her bid to take the nation’s second highest office. She herself has been extremely vague about that background. Given the details, it becomes clearer perhaps why.

    Sarah Palin has spent more than two and a half decades of her life as a member of an Alaska church which is part of a fanatical Christian-named cult project that is sweeping across America. Palin comes out of the most radical stream of US Born-Again Evangelism known as ‘Joel’s Army,’ an offshoot of what is called Dominionism and sometimes also called the Latter Rain cult or Manifest Sons of God. The movement deliberately attempts to remain below the radar screen.

    A Dominionist soldier in McCain’s Army

    Sarah Palin is a product of an extreme fringe of the American Evangelical movement known variously as the Third Wave Movement, also known as the New Apostolic Reformation, or as Joel's Army, a part of what is called Dominionism. Until 2002 according to their own website, Palin was a member of Wasilla Assembly of God with Senior Pastor Ed Kalnins. Online video clips of Palin speaking from the pulpit of this church are revealing. Curiously, between the time this article was begun on September 9th and the 11th, the video was removed without explanation:

    (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20712.htm.).

    As one researcher familiar with the history of the Third Wave Movement or Dominionism describes, ‘The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young generation will form ‘Joel’s Army’ to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God.’4

    The excesses of this movement were declared a heresy in 1949 by the General Council of the Assemblies of God, and again condemned through Resolution 16 in 2000.

    Sarah H. Leslie, a former Christian Right leader, describes the ideology of Dominionism:

    ‘The Gospel of Salvation is achieved by setting up the ‘Kingdom of God’ as a literal and physical kingdom to be ‘advanced’ on Earth in the present age. Some dominionists liken the New Testament Kingdom to the Old Testament Israel in ways that justify taking up the sword, or other methods of punitive judgment, to war against enemies of their kingdom.

    ‘Dominionists teach that men can be coerced or compelled to enter the kingdom. They assign to the Church duties and rights that belong Scripturally only to Jesus Christ. This includes the esoteric belief that believers can ‘incarnate’ Christ and function as His body on Earth to establish His kingdom rule. An inordinate emphasis is placed on man’s efforts; the doctrine of the sovereignty of God is diminished.’5

    Leslie quotes from Al Dager’s Vengeance Is Ours: The Church In Dominion: ‘Dominion theology is predicated upon three basic beliefs: 1) Satan usurped man’s dominion over the earth through the temptation of Adam and Eve; 2) The Church is God’s instrument to take dominion back from Satan; 3) Jesus cannot or will not return until the Church has taken dominion by gaining control of the earth’s governmental and social institutions.’6

    Sarah Leslie pinpoints to the central deception behind the current spread of Dominionism among various Protestant denominations across America today:

    ‘Dominion theology is a heresy. As such it is rarely presented as openly as the definitions above may indicate. Outside of the Reconstructionist camp, evangelical dominionism has wrapped itself in slick packages – one piece at a time – for mass-media consumption. This has been a slow process, taking several decades. Few evangelicals would recognize the word ‘dominionism’ or know what it means. This is because other terminologies have been developed which soft-sell dominionism, concealing the full scope of the agenda. Many evangelicals (and even their more conservative counterparts, the fundamentalists) may adhere to tidbits of dominionism without recognizing the error…

    ‘To most effectively propagate their agenda, dominionist leaders first developed new ecclesiologies, eschatologies and soteriologies for targeted audiences along the major denominational fault lines of evangelical Christianity. Then the 1990s Promise Keepers men’s movement was used as a vehicle to ‘break down the walls’, i.e., cross denominational barriers for the purpose of exporting dominionism to the wider evangelical subculture. This strategy was so effective that it reached into the mainline Protestant denominations. Dominionists have carefully selected leaders to be trained as ‘change agents’ for ‘transformation’ (dominion) in an erudite manner that belies the media stereotype of southern-talking, Bible-thumping, fundamentalist half-wits.’7

    Wasilla Assembly of God

    Sarah Palin comes out of the circles of such Dominionist networks. Sarah Palin was reportedly re-baptized at age twelve at the Wasilla Assembly of God church. Palin attended the church from the time she was ten until 2002, over twenty-eight years. Palin's association with the Wasilla Assembly of God has continued nearly up to the day she was picked by Senator John McCain as running mate.

    Palin is now under investigation for possible improper use of state travel funds for a trip she made on June 8 to Wasilla. Her trip in turns out was to attend a Wasilla Assembly of God ‘Masters Commission’ graduation ceremony, and a multi-church Wasilla event known as ‘One Lord Sunday.’ At the latter, Palin and Alaska LT Governor Scott Parnell were publicly blessed, onstage before an estimated crowd of 6,000, through the "laying on of hands" by Wasilla Assembly of God's Head Pastor Ed Kalnins, her former pastor.

    The pastor, Ed Kalnins, and Masters Commission students have traveled to South Carolina to participate in a ‘prophetic conference’ at Morningstar Ministries, one of the major ministries of the Third Wave movement. The head of prophecy at Morningstar, Steve Thompson, is currently scheduled to do a prophecy seminar at the Wasilla Assembly of God. Other major leaders in the movement have also traveled to Wasilla to visit and speak at the church.

    In his sermons, Kalnins promotes such exotic theological concepts as the possession of geographic territories by demonic spirits and the inter-generational transmission of family ‘curses.’ Palin has also been ‘anointed,’ by an African cleric, Bishop Thomas Muthee, prominent in the Joel’s Army movement, who has repeatedly visited the Wasilla Assembly of God and claims to have effected positive, dramatic social change in a Kenyan town by driving out a ‘spirit of witchcraft.’ 8

    As Governor in Juneau, six hundred miles from Wasilla, Palin attends the Juneau Christian Church of Pastor Mike Rose, an Assembly of God Third Wave church.

    Sarah Leslie describes the movement which has supported Sarah Palin for most of her life:

    ‘New Apostolic Reformation. This dominionist sect is a direct offshoot of the Latter Rain cult (also known as Joel’s Army or Manifest Sons of God). Chief architect of this movement for the past two decades is C. Peter Wagner, President of Global Harvest Ministries and Chancellor of the Wagner Leadership Institute. His spiritual warfare teachings have been widely disseminated through mission networks such as AD 2000, which was closely associated with the Lausanne Movement. A prominent individual connected to this sect is Ted Haggard, current head of the National Association of Evangelicals.’9

    C. Peter Wagner is quoted by Leslie defining his view of what he calls ‘The New Apostolic Reformation,’:

    ‘Since 2001, the body of Christ has been in the Second Apostolic Age. The apostolic/prophetic government of the church is now in place. . . . We began to build our base by locating and identifying with the intercessory prayer movements. This time, however, we feel that God wants us to start governmentally, connecting with the apostles of the region. God has already raised up for us a key apostle in one of the strategic nations of the Middle East and other apostles are already coming on board. Once we have the apostles in place, we will then bring the intercessors and the prophets into the inner circle, and we will end up with the spiritual core we need to move ahead for retaking the dominion that is rightfully ours.’-- C. Peter Wagner

    Wagner, who took over Haggard’s Colorado Springs center when the latter was forced to resign in disgrace, claims that there are as many New Apostolic Reformation churches in the US as Southern Baptist churches. The movement worldwide is estimated as high as 100 million people.  And yet its impact is completely under the radar of most researchers outside of those in the movement itself.

    An ‘end-time soldier in God’s army’?

    All evidence suggests Palin was carefully selected by the leadership of the Bush-Cheney-McCain Republican party to galvanize the Party’s activist Evangelical base, something McCain had been unable to do.

    Some theological and political background to the Joel’s Army or Third Wave movement as it is also known, is instructive. It teaches a radical fundamentalist creed that its adherents must actively engage in politics, to become what they term, ‘soldiers in God’s Army.’

    The Joel’s Army movement focuses on recruiting young people to sessions of writhing on the floor in uncontrollable ecstasy, calling it a sign of the ‘Holy Spirit.’ Children as young as five speak of having ‘gotten saved.’ The movement is extremely authoritarian according to those conservative Christian churches who have studied and openly oppose the sect as heretical. It teaches a dogma that echoes the infamous Manichean line of George Bush following the shock of September 11, 2001: ‘There are two kinds of people in the World: Those who love Jesus, and those who don’t.’

    Until recently a ‘general’ in Joel’s Army was a 32-year old Canadian, Todd Bentley. In one case, on YouTube, clips of his most dramatic healings have been condensed into a three-minute highlight reel. Bentley describes God ordering him to kick an elderly lady in the face. A report published by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a watchdog group, describes the Joel’s Army mass recruiting techniques of Bentley:

    ‘Todd Bentley has a long night ahead of him, resurrecting the dead, healing the blind, and exploding cancerous tumors. Since April 3, the 32-year-old, heavily tattooed, body-pierced, shaved-head Canadian preacher has been leading a continuous "supernatural healing revival" in central Florida. To contain the 10,000-plus crowds flocking from around the globe, Bentley has rented baseball stadiums, arenas and airport hangars at a cost of up to $15,000 a day. Many in attendance are church pastors themselves who believe Bentley to be a prophet and don't bat an eye when he tells them he's seen King David and spoken with the Apostle Paul in heaven...Tattooed across his sternum are military dog tags that read "Joel's Army." They're evidence of Bentley's generalship in a rapidly growing apocalyptic movement that's gone largely unnoticed by watchdogs of the theocratic right. According to Bentley and a handful of other "hyper-charismatic" preachers advancing the same agenda, Joel's Army is prophesied to become an Armageddon-ready military force of young people with a divine mandate to physically impose Christian "dominion" on non-believers.’ 10

    Their name comes from their special focus on the Old Testament Book of Joel, Chapter Two. On his website, Bentley declares,

    ‘An end-time army has one common purpose -- to aggressively take ground for the kingdom of God under the authority of Jesus Christ, the Dread Champion…The trumpet is sounding, calling on-fire, revolutionary believers to enlist in Joel's Army. ... Many are now ready to be mobilized to establish and advance God's kingdom on earth.’

    This past March, at a ‘Passion for Jesus’ conference in Kansas City sponsored by the International House of Prayer, or IHOP, a ministry for teenagers from the heavy metal, punk and goth scenes, one Joel’s Army pastor, Lou Engle, called on his audience for vengeance:

    ‘I believe we're headed to an Elijah/Jezebel showdown on the Earth, not just in America but all over the globe, and the main warriors will be the prophets of Baal versus the prophets of God, and there will be no middle ground," said Engle. He was referring to the Baal of the Old Testament, a pagan idol whose followers were slaughtered under orders from the prophet Elijah.

    ‘There's an Elijah generation that's going to be the forerunners for the coming of Jesus, a generation marked not by their niceness but by the intensity of their passion," Engle continued. ‘The kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent take it by force. Such force demands an equal response, and Jesus is going to make war on everything that hinders love, with his eyes blazing fire.’

    Joel's Army believers are hard-core Christian ‘dominionists,’ meaning they believe that America, along with the rest of the world, should be governed by conservative Christians and a conservative Christian interpretation of biblical law. There is no room in their doctrine for democracy or pluralism. To paraphrase George W. Bush, ‘You’re either with us or you are against us.’

    Joel's Army followers are most often labile teenagers and young adults. They are taught to believe they're members of the final generation to come of age before the end of the world. Sarah Palin was twelve when she first came into these circles.

    Palin recently told interviewer Charles Gibson of ABC News that Georgia should be granted membership of NATO. When pressed on whether this would mean that the US would be obliged to defend Georgia if Russian troops went into the country again, she replied, ‘Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help…We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia.’ Is this Sarah Palin a stateswoman with foreign policy experience, or is it Sarah Palin the Dominionist who sees a potential war with Russia as part of an ‘Elijah/Jezebel showdown on the Earth’?

    This is the background of the woman who might well become Vice President to a 72-year old President John McCain, a man reported to have severe skin cancer and other major health problems. According to the US Constitutional succession, should McCain be incapacitated or die in office, she would become President.

     F. William Engdahl is author of A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order (Pluto Press), and Seeds of Destruction: The Hidden Agenda of Genetic Manipulation (www.globalresearch.ca ). His newest book, Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order , is due out later this fall. He may be reached through his website,www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net .

    Notes

    Selected CNP Member Biographies in
     
    http://www.seekgod.ca/topiccnp.htm.

    2 Paul Collins & Phillip Collins, The Deep Politics of God: The CNP, Dominionism, and the Ted Haggard Scandal , Feb. 19th, 2007.

    3 Ibid.

    4 Bruce Wilson, Sarah Palin’s Churches and the New Wave Apostolic Reformation, in
     
    http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/sarah-palins-churches-and-the-third-wave/.

    5 Sarah H. Leslie, Dominionism and the Rise of Christian Imperialism, accessed in 
    http://www.discernment-ministries.org/ChristianImperialism.htm.

    6 Ibid.

    7 Ibid.

    8 Bruce Wilson, Ibid.

    9 Sarah H. Leslie, Op. Cit.

    10 Casey Sanchez, Theocratic Sect Prays for Real Armageddon, Southern Poverty Law Center.August 30, 2008, accessed in 
    http://www.alternet.org/story/96945/theocratic_sect_prays_for_real_armageddon/?page=entire.

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  • Sun, Sep 21 2008 6:31 PM In reply to

    • GregG
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    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    Article:
    ‘The CNP appears to be a creation of factions of the power elite designed to mobilize well-meaning Christians to unwittingly support elite initiatives.
    Setting aside what "power elite" even means for just a moment, I strongly disagree that the support from "well meaning" Christians is unwitting at all. Two of my brothers threw themselves mind, body, and soul into the religious right, and openly advocated for things like invading muslim countries. One of them firmly believes that God works his magic through men like GW.

     

     

  • Fri, Oct 24 2008 2:15 PM In reply to

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    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    she's protected from witches, if only we were as well

     

     

    Violence has nothing with which to cover itself except the lie, and the lie has nothing to stand on other than violence. Any man who has once acclaimed violence as his method must inexorably choose the lie as his principle. Solzhenitsyn, Alexander

  • Fri, Jul 8 2011 10:58 AM In reply to

    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    Michele Bachmann signs pledge that says pornography should be banned and homosexuality is a choice

    Michele Bachmann became the the first presidential candidate to sign a pledge by the Family Leader, an influential social-conservative group in Iowa, that says pornography should be banned and homosexuality is a choice.

    By signing the pledge, “The Marriage Vow – A Declaration of Dependence upon Marriage and Family,” Bachmann vows to “uphold the institution of marriage as only between one man and one woman,” Think Progress reports.

    To uphold the institution of marriage, the pledge states the following:

    1. All forms of pornography should be banned.

    2. Homosexuality is a choice, a health risk, and can be compared to polygamy or adultery.

    3. Sex is better after marriage.

    4. Sharia law should be rejected.

    5. Better protection for women against prostitution and trafficking.

    Bachmann in 2004: Being gays is "a very sad life" and "part of Satan."

    Michele Bachmann in 2004: Homosexuality is "personal enslavement"

    Excerpt of Interview with Marcus Bachmann (Michele's husband) on homosexuality

    Michele Bachmann: Schools should teach intelligent design

    "I support intelligent design," Bachmann told reporters in New Orleans following her speech to the Republican Leadership Conference. "What I support is putting all science on the table and then letting students decide. I don't think it's a good idea for government to come down on one side of scientific issue or another, when there is reasonable doubt on both sides."

    Bachmann suggests intelligent design is a ‘scientific fact’

    Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann says schools should teach children about evolution and intelligent design because “the best thing to do is to allow all scientific facts on the table.”

    During a question-and-answer session at the University of Northern Iowa Wednesday, Bachmann was asked if intelligent design should be taught as science in public schools.

    “I think that all science should be on the table,” the candidate explained. “I think the one thing we do not want to have is censorship by government.”

    “I do believe that God created the Earth,” she continued. “And I believe there are issues that need to be addressed — the Second Law of Thermodynamics, the issue of irreducible complexity, the dearth of fossil record.”

    Leap of Faith

    In a speech in Minneapolis in 2006, Bachmann spoke of growing up with “the emotional struggles of not having a strong father in my life.” Two years after her father left, Bachmann joined a high-school prayer group. She had been brought up a Lutheran, but she knew little about the Bible. With the help of the members of the prayer group, she explained in the speech, she became a born-again Christian:

    "I didn’t know I wasn’t a believer. But they knew I wasn’t a believer, and they started praying for me. And all of a sudden the holy spirit started knocking on my heart’s door and I could hear the Lord tug me and call me to Himself, and I responded on November 1st of 1972, and I knew that I knew that I knew that I had received Jesus Christ as my lord and savior and that my life would never be the same after I made that commitment, because I knew what darkness looked like. I knew it from my home life. I absolutely understood sin, and I wanted no part of it. When Jesus Christ came in and cleaned out this dark heart, that was light. That was rest. That was peace. It was refreshment. Why would I ever want the world? I knew what that had to offer. This was great. That didn’t mean that I woke and all of a sudden I had money, all of a sudden I had position, all of a sudden I had education. It didn’t. But what it meant was that all of a sudden I had a father."

    Bachmann told me, “It was very helpful to join the prayer group. That’s when I gave my life over to God, and it was a life-changing experience for me to recognize that I wanted him to be in control of my life rather than me being in control of my life.”

    Bachmann tells students: 'Don't settle' (at Liberty University where they teach Young Earth Creationism)

    He is the Lord of the universe, the Master, Creator, the Alpha, Omega, the beginning and the end — why would we do anything else and settle?"

    Bachmann Spins Tax-Attorney Experience in South Carolina

    Rep. Michele Bachmann played a bit of defense while on the stump in South Carolina on Thursday, spinning her tax attorney experience as an advantage in the fight to revamp the tax code and the IRS.

    "I went to work in that system because the first rule of war is: Know your enemy," the Minnesota Republican said. "So I went to the inside to learn how they work because I want to defeat them."

    Her previous job of suing tax evaders on behalf of the Internal Revenue Service is a point of vulnerability for the anti-tax tea party darling.

    GOP Debate: Michele Bachmann Says Foreigners Have No Rights

    Michele Bachmann is an Extremely Ignorant Disgrace

    Bachmann wants to continue trade embargo with Cuba because Hezbollah wants to put missiles there

    Michele Bachmann's insane religious ramblings:

    Former tax attorney for the IRS (more here)

    Received federal farm subsidies

    Supports PATRIOT Act

    Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas (laughable: Bachmann claims to read Mises)

    Bachmann: "The President is Clearly Wrong" on Waterboarding

    The Republican presidential candidate said in a GOP candidates' debate on Saturday night that she, along with fellow candidate Herman Cain, would support the reinstatement of waterboarding as an interrogation technique for terror suspects.

    . . .

    "President Harry Truman -- who had to make the horrific decision about dropping an atomic bomb on Japan to end World War II -- he said if he had to kill Japanese in order to save one American life, he would," Bachmann told Fox News. "And if, as president of the United States, I believed that we would be able to save 3000 American lives, and stop aircraft from flying into the twin towers, I would utilize waterboarding if it would save those American lives."

  • Fri, Jul 8 2011 11:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    Three years later, Palin is bigger than ever.

    Based on this, I see no reason to believe that the general population's losing it's "faith" in the idea that a charismatic leader can carry them to the promised land, where watching Harry Potter is a felony offense, and heterosexual marriage is mandated by law on all able-bodied citizens over the age of 21.

     

  • Sat, Jul 9 2011 9:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    Will you do a video on this article?

  • Sat, Jul 9 2011 7:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    Nathan:

    Will you do a video on this article?

    He posted this in September of 2008. If he hasn't done a video about it by now.....

  • Sun, Jul 10 2011 6:57 AM In reply to

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    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    GregG:

    Nathan:

    Will you do a video on this article?

    He posted this in September of 2008. If he hasn't done a video about it by now.....

    Pffft! I was thinking this was a new thread, thread bumper.

  • Sun, Jul 10 2011 7:00 AM In reply to

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    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    "What I support is putting all science on the table and then letting students decide. I don't think it's a good idea for government to come down on one side of scientific issue or another, when there is reasonable doubt on both sides."

    Man, I don't know where to even begin with that statement.

  • Thu, Jul 28 2011 10:15 AM In reply to

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    Bachmann Silent on Allegations Her Clinic Offers Gay Conversion Therapy

    Leading mental health experts today strongly condemned the Christian counseling center owned by GOP presidential candidate Michele Bachmann and her husband Marcus for engaging in a discredited therapy designed to convert gays to straights through prayer and self-reflection.

    . . .

    Bachmann & Associates has received tens of thousands of dollars in state and federal funds, but it is not clear whether any of the public money was used to support these therapies. Questions about this sent to the Bachmann campaign went unanswered.

    Ann Coulter: This is War

    We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

  • Thu, Jul 28 2011 10:55 AM In reply to

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    Nathan:

    "What I support is putting all science on the table and then letting students decide. I don't think it's a good idea for government to come down on one side of scientific issue or another, when there is reasonable doubt on both sides."

    Man, I don't know where to even begin with that statement.

    Are you against the idea that students should decide for themselves.  Or do you want to force your beliefs down their throat.  

  • Thu, Jul 28 2011 11:11 AM In reply to

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    Re: Christian Fundamentalism Permeates the Republican Party: Sarah Palin’s links to the Christian Right

    Actually it's the creationists who want their beliefs rammed down children's throats.

    If they were interested in letting kids decide for themselves, they'd be campaigning to end compulsory schooling, not to have their materials added to the curriculum.

  • Thu, Jul 28 2011 11:22 AM In reply to

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    Also, if Bachmann were really so wary of the gov't taking sides on scientific issues, then why does she approve defense budgets in the hundreds of billions?  No organization on earth comes down harder on scientific issues than DARPA.

    Oh, yeah.  It's because she's a big fat liar.

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    Rick Perry: Evolution 'Just a Theory’

    According to multiple reports, the boy asked Perry, a self-professed evangelical Christian, how old the earth was at the behest of his mother.

    "You know what? I don't have any idea," Perry reportedly answered. "I know it's pretty old, so it goes back a long, long way. I'm not sure anybody actually knows completely and absolutely how long, how old the earth is."

    When Perry heard the boy's mother urging him to ask the governor, who is considered a top contender for the Republican nomination for 2012 presidential race, about evolution, Perry was quick to say it's a theory that's "got some gas in it," and emphasized how, in his home state of Texas, public schools teach both evolution and creationism.

    "I figure you're smart enough to figure out which one is right," Perry added.

    Scientists actually believe the earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old and formed as a result of the Big Bang. Many fundamentalist Christians like Perry do not accept that theory -- or that of evolution -- and instead believe in creationism, or the religious belief that the universe and humanity are the creation of a supernatural being.

    Perry has not been shy about his doubts regarding evolution in the past.

    Earlier this month, he appointed a biology teacher who disputes evolution as the chairwoman of the Texas Board of Education. In a July interview with The Associated Press, Perry went further and said there were some "holes" in the theory.

    "There are clear indications from our people who have amazing intellectual capability that this didn't happen by accident and a creator put this in place," he said.

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