seems this got WAY off-topic fast, and turned into a debate of who's
right/wrong... "I'm right because these people said so!"
"No, I'm right, because these people said your people are dumb!"
What silliness! And it's totally irrelevant. I'm just taking a stab
in the dark here, particularly since I just skimmed the previous
posts, but... Has anyone here actually had first-hand, long-term
illness and experienced western, eastern, AND holistic medicine? Not a
friend or family memeber, but you yourself? My guess is... probably
not (and I appologize if I'm wrong there).
(ultra-abridged version) of my life story...
been sick for the past six and a half years. What started as
"bronchitis" (lit. illness of the bronchial tubes - vague
diagnosis is vague) quickly turned into a series of infections,
finally settling on what the (many) doctors claimed was one, or a mix
of, human parvo b19, lyme disease, and/or a chronic enteroviral
infection. The results of which were mild/moderate brain damage,
extreme fatigue, loss of concentration, memory loss, complete loss of
stamina, extreme headaches, and so on... Interestingly, a number of
tests later in the course of my illness revealed I had other,
undiagnosed diseases at the same time, such as mono.
literally hundreds of tests later (100+ blood tests, countless stool,
saliva, hair, and skin tests, and a number of more... obscure ones),
the half a dozen or so (western) doctors I had seen about a year into
this illness had no clue what I had, or had to treat it. Sure, they
you have a viral infection. Here, take this valtrex for three to
twelve months." Within days, my skin turned yellow (yay,
jaundice!) and I was having almost uncontrollable nose bleeds. Fail.
you have a fungal infection in your gut. Take this, you'll feel great
in no time!" I don't think I've ever felt more sick in my entire
life. I thought I was going to die by the second day.
infection? Here's a bunch of antibiotics I can't even name."
Uh-huh. Thanks doc. Oh hey, did you know Cipro can cause severe
degeneration of the tendons? Good thing I narrowly avoided that
(while it almost killed a friend of mine within a week), but it did
still cause a severe relapse in my illness.
there were the eastern and holistic doctors. Thankfully,
accuncturists are about as non-invasive as they can be while sticking
needles in your flesh. Ironically, they had the most success with
mitigating my symptoms, though, they too failed in "curing"
course, there were the other doctors that said, "Oh you're not
sick. You're just depressed. It's all in your head! Here's an
anti-depressant. If you feel like comitting suicide, that's okay -
it's a common side effect. BUT WAIT, if you do have those thoughts,
stopping the medication will probably make it worse."
three years of that, before one doctor nutted up and said, "Oh,
my son had something very much like this, so now I'm dedicating my
research to treating this kind of thing. You sir, are very sick. Lets
try the most powerful immune booster known to man,
immunoglobulin." Thank you. <--- That thank you was genuine,
by the way.
years in, ONE doctor out of over a dozen, a Chinese man who was
trained in Western AND Eastern medicine in London, had no idea what I
had (though suspected a chronic enteroviral infection), but
regardless picked a (relatively) safe means of nuking the crap out of
whatever it was, and it did actually vastly improve my condition,
though it didn't cure it. At least I was able to work part time for a
few months and attent classes part-time.
why did no doctor think of this before? Money and/or ego. The issue
is corruption. Most doctors are required to see and treat some number
of patients within a certain time-frame, or their don't get paid.
This means their priority is often to get people out the door as
quickly as possible. The other issue is that specialists always think
the illness you have is what they specialize in, even if it's not
what you actually have. Projection. They project what they want to
see, because they can treat that.
my dozen or so courses of immunoglobulin (which now make my condition
worse), I have seen a number of medical practitioners to try and deal
with the remaining medical issues, and interestingly, the most useful
have been an accupuncturist (the man is amazing, I kid you not), and
a now retired super-rich doctor that has studied and practiced
Western, Eastern, and Holistic medicine, and treats most illness via
supplement instead of synthetic drug.
sick, six and a half years later, but alive.
point is this - I feel I have experience with all kinds of medicine.
So, here is my objective analysis based upon personal experience.
for emergency procedures (surgery, etc)
for treating KNOWN, TESTABLE illnesses (strep throat, for example)
dangerous outside of "simple"/direct treatment
closed-minded to alternative treatments or illnesses
to the point of recklessness with the prescriptions/treatments
lacks education on the dangers of their own medicine
are often highly processed medication that were once natural, but no
longer are, and are so incredibly dangerous it is scary
administered by an experienced practitioner, extremely safe
at treating symptoms of illness, and curing basic diseases (colds,
flus, other basic infections)
at treating abnormal illness that cannot be properly/safely be
treated by Western medicine
are often based off raw herbs and other natural medicines, that are
processed much more safely by the human body
incapable of dealing with more severe conditions or emergencies
are a lot of fools (read: "quacks") that think they have a
gift, they're special/magical, or they just think they know what
they're doing, but really don't, and lead poor sick people down a
path of destruction (but hey, Western doctors do that too)
have risks and benefits, but I find that the Eastern medical
practitioners are more open-minded, and will let you know when they
feel out of their depth and send you to a Western doctor. Western
doctors will treat you at all costs, even if they wrong and the
treatment will kill you. Hmm...
story short... I believe it. I've been almost killed by Western
medicine more times than I can count, and ONLY survived because of my
will to stop treatments that doctors have recommended (to be later
yelled at and abused by said doctors most of the time).