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  • Fri, May 15 2009 11:39 PM

    • NinaEmily
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    • Philadelphia, PA
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    • Philosopher King

    Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Hello everyone,

    I am excited to be making my first post since I have gotten such value from FDR.  My name is Emily, and I am a music education major at Temple University in Philadelphia.  RTR was my first experience with FDR, and it changed my life.  I heard about the book through a friend's facebook status which read "Cory is discovering the logic of love!", and after a google search, I stumbled upon Stef's intro video for RTR and was hooked immediately.  I read the book as I was getting to know two of my best friends Cory Anderson and Phil Crimmins, both FDR members.  Although they have known each other for years, my relationship with each of them really grew out of a mutual commitment to honesty.  Since I had finally discovered true joy and love in relationships which I had been searching for all my life, I was highly motivated to delve deeper into the world of philosophy and to learn more because learning what was true, even though extremely difficult, became the only way I could imagine living.

    After discovering the truth that adult relationships are voluntary, I began to see the true nature of my relationship with my parents.  It was manipulative and painful, and I had been completely blind to it.  I began to understand emotionally for the first time just how corrupt my relationship with my parents was as I was getting to know Phil.  I told him about a time in 8th grade that I had wanted to kill myself, and he expressed genuine sadness and anger over what I had gone through.  I had never experienced that level of empathy before, and much to my surprise, the sadness and anger I had felt in 8th grade came flooding back to me, and some part of me knew, that this time, there was something I could do about my situation.  Although I had approached my mother before about the state of our relationship, I opened dialogue once again, this time with an understanding of RTR, and the understanding that there was nothing binding me to the relationship.  Many painful conversations, cruel emails, and a joint therapy session later, I understood intellectually that my parents will not change.  The emotional understanding came when my new friend Greg reminded me that I didn't have to defoo if I didn't want to.  That was when I realized that I really did not want to be in the relationship with my parents.  When school ended four days ago, I decided not to go home, and also requested that my parents not contact me.  I have been flooded with a million emotions at once over the past few days.  I am extremely excited and happy to finally be free, and at the same time, I am struggling to believe that I really can live independently.  And sometimes I even miss the parents I never had.

    The search for truth here at FDR really is changing the world.  I know because since I defooed, I can feel the difference in my world, which is freedom.

    I look forward to becoming involved on the boards and getting to know you!

    Emily Smile

  • Sat, May 16 2009 5:27 AM In reply to

    • cogito
    • Top 75 Contributor
    • Joined on Sun, Apr 2 2006
    • London
    • Posts 780

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Hi and welcome!

    I'm so sorry to hear about what's happened with your family.

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  • Sat, May 16 2009 8:26 AM In reply to

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    You are absolutely wonderful Emily. I'm glad you will get to enjoy being a part of this conversation

  • Sat, May 16 2009 10:44 AM In reply to

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    NinaEmily:
    I heard about the book through a friend's facebook status which read "Cory is discovering the logic of love!"

    and thanks to you, I continue to discover the logic of love! Smile


  • Sat, May 16 2009 1:00 PM In reply to

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Welcome aboard, so great that you decided to post, and thank you for such an honest and open introduction -- I am of course so sorry to hear about what's happened with your family, can you tell us a little bit more about what happened in the therapy session?Left Hug

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  • Sat, May 16 2009 1:52 PM In reply to

    • Nala
    • Top 500 Contributor
    • Joined on Tue, Aug 19 2008
    • Posts 147

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Welcome and congratulations for joining us here Emily!

     

     Freedomain Radio...revealing the cult in cultureComputer

  • Sat, May 16 2009 2:06 PM In reply to

    • LexLuther
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    • Joined on Sun, Jan 21 2007
    • Casper, Wy
    • Posts 27

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Hi Emily,

        Welcome to the FDR community. It takes an incredible amount of courage to do what you have done. It is possible to find real happiness and you found the way to it! Congratulations!

    Joel

     You will never meet the right person until you become the right person

  • Sat, May 16 2009 2:58 PM In reply to

    • amagi
    • Top 100 Contributor
    • Joined on Sat, Apr 14 2007
    • London
    • Posts 602
    • Philosopher King

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Welcome Emily :)

    I am so sorry to hear about your terrible experiences in the past, you are so brave to explore and confront the way others have treated you Left Hug

    Look forward to seeing you around!

     What comes is better than what came before.

     

  • Sat, May 16 2009 7:07 PM In reply to

    • Colleen
    • Top 150 Contributor
    • Joined on Mon, Oct 8 2007
    • Atlanta, GA
    • Posts 348

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Welcome to the board! I'm very sad to hear about your obviously emotionally tumultuous journey with your family and exploring your history. Many sympathies for that Left Hug

    Very glad to have you here though! 

     

  • Sat, May 16 2009 7:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    It's been a real pleasure getting to know you over the past few weeks, and I'm thrilled that you're on the board Smile!  Congratulations on the very brave leaps you've taken towards freedom.

    Yes

  • Sat, May 16 2009 11:30 PM In reply to

    • MarisaO
    • Top 100 Contributor
    • Joined on Thu, Jul 17 2008
    • Gardena, California
    • Posts 541
    • Philosopher King

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Hi Emily,

    I am so sorry to hear about your family.  Your courage is very admirable.  I wish you the best and look forward to getting to know you better.

    Marisa

  • Sun, May 17 2009 1:45 PM In reply to

    • Crystal
    • Top 150 Contributor
    • Joined on Tue, Nov 27 2007
    • Carmel, CA
    • Posts 480
    • Philosopher King

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

    Great introduction Emily! It was great to read about your experiences, and I'm so sorry to hear about your family. That's a very difficult choice. Your courage is incredibly admirable. 

    So glad to have you here! Smile

    "The only knowledge we avoid is self-knowledge" - Molyneux

  • Sun, May 17 2009 2:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

     Great post - your joy and excitement really come through.

     

  • Mon, May 18 2009 7:12 AM In reply to

    • NinaEmily
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    • Joined on Fri, Feb 13 2009
    • Philadelphia, PA
    • Posts 7
    • Philosopher King

    Re: Discovering the Logic of Love!

     Thank you all for being so supportive.  I felt great joy reading your empathetic responses to my post. Smile

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