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Does anyone here have any dealings or understanding first of all, who these people are?

So I was sent a comment on my blog,stating that I was in desperate need of being saved from FDR, because it will force me to DeFOO and then next thing you know... etc. etc.

I give the gal who did contact me more respect for having the gumption to "say" what she was thinking as opposed to hiding on another forum spouting on and on about how they believe I am being brainwashed; As well as that I am simply being spoon fed, and I am falling victim to a cult.

I responded, with this (just in case it accidentally disappears..):

"Wow.. I sure am some popular discussion.

I will say, on my own behalf that I am not being fed information without my inspecting before swallowing.

I'm doing a pretty good job of figuring out many aspects of my past that ring true. I am attempting to better myself. That being said, I also feel with the tone of this discussion, it also needs to be said that even in my vulnerable state of picking apart elements of my past, I still use my own rational mind to figure out what is true. What is possibly not true; and maintaining the stand that I am the one who inevitably decides what is best for myself now as opposed to others.

That includes FDR.

I am not following the words as doctrine. I am using the questions as emotional stimulus to get to the bottom of things with my own rational thinking. I do just so happen to see a great deal of validity in the ideas proposed.

Likewise, I have had many conversations with these individuals and more(outside of forums) about the specific situation of communicating with my mother. Believe it or not, there are other Freedomainers who believe my stand on our conversation being a good thing, is true. However, it is key to remember that even though there is that good conversation, and the potential for peace between my mother and I where I am myself, and she appreciates such, I must remember where I have learned many of my practices from which have caused such afflicting anxieties with her to begin with.

It goes hand in hand, and no. I'm not cutting off my ties with my mother, because she verbally slammed me against the wall at a very young age. I would cut off ties with my mother, if the only way I could function as the person I AM and be happy and productive, were threatened by continuing the relationship.

So please, acknowledge I'm not stupid. 95% of my realizations came from realizing the difficulty in my life because I have been thinking irrationally. the other 5% came from people simply asking questions. If the questions led me to my realizations, that essentially means I am using my brain.

So please. No worries.

Admittedly, I found it quite awkward seeing this discussion in another forum. I honestly do not know anything about this forum, so my discomfort I believe is valid. I'm not saying you are not free to form your own opinions. However, it is far more helpful if one is concerned to step forward and say something. I would have gladly taken any other views as a potential for growth, although as I keep saying... I have my own mind to run it through.

I don't believe in God. I don't believe it Gods. Stef is not my god. He does have a pretty sexy pan-European accent. But, my point being...

If you still feel a concern, knowing all of which I have just said, please feel free to e-mail me. I am very friendly and respectful, but I am honest. I only expect the same if you choose to send me an e-mail. Anything disrespectful is a definite reason for me to not take what you have to say seriously.

Thank you."

Why in the world would they spend so much time trying to bring down FDR, while not worrying with their own personal issues? One more thing.. why is FDR THE main TOPIC?

Thanks in advance!

the thread is here.

http://liberatingminds.forumotion.com/freedomainradio-f26/jc-molyneux-the-cult-in-action-t1086.htm

 One of the guys said ''On Truth'' was a good recruting tool. Man, I've tried to get many fiends to read the book and it just makes them run like hienas. Most won't call or write back.

If there is a better recruting tool I could use, please point it out. The dominican branch is not meeting it's quota.

Thanks.

he also said, my boyfriend made me do it.

From what I remember, Liberating Minds was created by FDR ex-members that were either banned or didn't like it here. 

MeladorianGal:

Why in the world would they spend so much time trying to bring down FDR, while not worrying with their own personal issues? One more thing.. why is FDR THE main TOPIC?

 

 

You've just said it. They try to bring FDR down - and FDR is the main topic - because they don't want to have to deal with their personal issues. It's sad, but that's the choice that they've made.

If FDR had no detractors and didn't slough off the people who have no desire to better themselves, we wouldn't be doing a very good job! So in a perverse way, the existence of these people and their board is a good sign.

Slough off people who have no desire to better themselves? Wow. Harsh. "Slough off" is a dismissive and dehumanizing way to describe the process, and you really have no idea whether or not they have a desire to better themselves.  Slough off? Like dead skin cells? That is a very perverse thing to find good.

MeladorianGal:

stating that I was in desperate need of being saved from FDR, because it will force me to DeFOO and then next thing you know...

Could this be projection?

If I think that people might be lured into dangerous ideas and are gullible swallowers of whatever ideas are presented to them by whatever evil persons, isn't it likely that that is exactly what I am and therefor expect you to be as well?

I am a gullible swallower of crazy people's ideas, you will probably also be a gullible swallower of evil people's ideas.

DW2:

you really have no idea whether or not they have a desire to better themselves. 

Ample evidence of their desires and intentions can be found on their own website, which was linked above in this thread. Ample evidence can also be found in the individual members' history on this site.

Slough off? Like dead skin cells?

I do apologize for the metaphor, with which I myself was unhappy. I could not, however, think of a better.

This,...

LM Forum:

People speak freely here with out fear of banning, and speak ill/well of FDR and it's content freely.

Reminded me of an old Yakov Smirnov joke. I'll try to paraphrase it here, unfortunately I can't immitate the Russian accent in print.

You have freedom of speech here in USA. You can say anything about US president and nobody bothers you. And we have freedom of speech in Soviet Union too. I can go right up to the prime minister and tell him exactly what I think of US president.

I found out, in a roundabout way that the person who contacted me, was Toms mother. (The Guardian ring a bell?)

I was in desperate need of being saved from FDR, because it will force me to DeFOO and then next thing you know... etc. etc.

I give the gal who did contact me more respect for having the gumption to "say" what she was thinking as opposed to hiding on another forum spouting on and on about how they believe I am being brainwashed; As well as that I am simply being spoon fed, and I am falling victim to a cult.

Why talk to or defend yourself with people who insult your intellectal integrity from the very start?

Why do you think she contacted you specifically?

MeladorianGal:

Liberating Minds.

I went to their "About" page and read, "but we have become dissatisfied and uncomfortable with the philosophical and psychological direction FDR and Stef are going in, or feel the need for more focused discussions than are possible on the FDR Board (or simply were banned from that board)." So my question is, how do I get banned from FDR? What sort of "focused discussions" are these that aren't possible on FDR but are possible elsewhere?

Why do people get banned from a forum?

Why have people been banned from THIS forum?

I think most of this is covered in the podcast series "Board Attacks".  There may be some other podcasts on this, so if I missed any let me know.

desertrat:

Why have people been banned from THIS forum?

If you display a consistent and significant corruption, or act out consistently in abusive or exploitive ways, and are either unwilling or unable to address either problem in an honest, curious, empathetic way, you get asked to leave. If you don't leave when asked, you get banned.

It's that simple - and it's the standard Stef set here, from the very beginning - the goal is the pursuit of happiness. Happiness is not possible if you surround yourself with corrupt and abusive people.

As he once put it: Get it good... or get it gone.