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  • Wed, Nov 12 2008 3:02 PM

    • Colleen
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    No More Make-Up

    The following is an excerpt from my blog about me breaking my addiction to make-up that I thought might be helpful to the women on this board who have experienced something similar Smile

    Several interesting things have come up since I've started to focus on my internalized shame. I'm currently reading "Healing the Shame that Binds You" by John Bradshaw, and aside from the first Alice Miller book I first picked up, it's the most psychologically liberating book I've ever read. Whereas Alice Miller really helped to reflect back to me the general experience of my childhood, this book has such specificity to what I suffered. I feel like it's written about my life. It's a revitalizing experience to finally put a name to the symptoms I've had, to the ego defenses I've engaged in throughout my life, and to realize that I'm not alone in what I've experienced in my own head-space as a response to what happened. It's a feeling of lifting the world off of my shoulders to realize that most people respond the same way to abuse, that it was indeed abuse, and that I didn't have responsibility for the defenses I constructed as a child. Shame is so isolating at its core. You believe that you alone are the bad one, the dirty one, the sick one, the crazy one, the fundamentally and irrecoverably defective one. The reason that full recovery from a shame-based personality is so rare is because exposure is what a shame-based person fears the most, and the honest expression of any of his deepest true feelings, symptoms, and experiences feels like a complete exposure of his totally corrupt and flawed self. And as Stef has said in the past, discovering the true self often involves embracing the exact opposite of what has seemingly come naturally before. 


    It seems there are 1,001 manifestations of the shame-based personality, many in the form of addictions, psychological defenses, and reenactments of shaming experiences. I've been giving some specific consideration lately to the physical and sexual symptoms of my shame-addiction/avoidance. One day a week ago I woke up and I just didn't want to wear make-up anymore. I don't even know if I can fully explain why that feeling just came all at once. Since my adolescent years, I've had acne, and I was shamed for it both by my peers at school and by my mother, who always attributed it to "not taking care of your skin," which A) is a load of nonsense and B) would be her fault for not teaching me. She knew my father had it heavily into his 20's, and that it is strongly linked to genetics. I tried so many different strategies to get rid of it, including different prescriptions, products, and natural remedies. It had catastrophic effects on my self-image, my ability to feel attractive, and to feel comfortable and engaged in any kind of romantic interaction. Oftentimes, I felt too ugly to be seen in public and wanted to hide away but couldn't. I do think acne has an effect on self-esteem either way, but I know that in my case the effect was amplified about 1,000 times over by my already savaged sense of self-worth and sensitivity to shame. 

    Now I'm rewriting my script. I woke up one day and thought, "I'm starting to feel genuinely valuable in so many ways now. Why do I feel like I need this make-up so badly?" I know why. It was a shield protecting me from what I feared the perceptions of other people would be. "Ew, look at that ugly girl. She must be dirty. Can't she take care of herself?" That's not the world. That's my mother. Even if other people in the world do think that of me, they're like my mother and consequently not healthy for me to be around. I have so much more to offer the world than the appearance of perfect skin, enhanced lashes, and rouged cheeks. If people are going to reject me or accept me or value me based on my conformity to beauty standards, then I'm afraid I'm looking for a little more depth than that. 

    So for the past week, I've worn no make-up. I didn't set up any kind of rule or standard called, "I'm not allowed to wear make-up ever again or for X period of time." On the contrary, I simply said that I wouldn't wear it until I could give it up as a shield to protect me from real shaming experiences in the past or imagined shaming experiences in the present. It's been a really scary and sometimes painful experience, but above all I've started to feel more liberated and better about myself. I feel proud that I no longer have to cling to formulas and brushes to create an illusory value or to protect me from shame. I actually feel a little more connected to the people around me. I think to myself, "Hey, the more of us women who don't wear make-up, but still take care of our hygiene and clothing, the more women will feel like they don't have to be a slave to the cosmetics case." I've even been taking a long look at my genuine appearance in the mirror lately, and I'm starting to think that I'm actually not that bad-looking. My skin is even starting to clear up a bit, presumably as a result of not drowning my pores in that crap. 

    So all-in-all I just wanted to happily report that I'm breaking my addiction to make-up and am starting to feel more valuable in and of myself. What I thought would cause me a lot of intense shame is actually now resulting in feelings of pride.

     

  • Wed, Nov 12 2008 3:18 PM In reply to

    • Jessen
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    Re: No More Make-Up

     fantastic post Colleen- thanks for sharing it- I'm glad for you:)

    i too have found it difficult to deal with these kinds of things lately, but I felt better after reading this post.

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  • Wed, Nov 12 2008 4:09 PM In reply to

    • Milo
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    That's terrific.  As a dude that doesn't wear makeup (two not mutually exclusive categories), I can still totally empathize with your combat against shame-based ways of presenting yourself to the world.  We do these things to hide ourselves because we don't think we're good enough as we are.  I haven't had wholesale success in fighting this at all, but I applaud your success and your courage in sharing it.

    I did some research on the book you mentioned, and it certainly interests me.  "Most psychologically liberating book I've ever read," also sounds like a ringing endorsement.  What about the book did you find most successful: the theories it presents, the recovery tactics it presents, or something else?

  • Wed, Nov 12 2008 5:47 PM In reply to

    • Colleen
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    I haven't read the entire book yet. I've just reached to part 2, which is where the methodology for healing is presented. Part 1 is just the theory, but I think it just helped me so much because I could identify so closely with so many scenarios described. I'd recommend it for anyone who finds that shame is an overwhelming force in his life. 

     

  • Wed, Nov 12 2008 6:05 PM In reply to

    • Milo
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    Colleen:
    I haven't read the entire book yet. I've just reached to part 2, which is where the methodology for healing is presented. Part 1 is just the theory, but I think it just helped me so much because I could identify so closely with so many scenarios described. I'd recommend it for anyone who finds that shame is an overwhelming force in his life. 

    Thanks.  I'm totally going to take you up on this.  I find myself experiencing a lot of shame regarding eating food in public and my physical appearance.  I think my shame in regards to these sorts of things stems not only from the bullying I endured growing up, but the complete disinterest and neglect I recieved from my parents when I expressed my sadness at my gaining of weight and general inactivity.  My sadness as a child probably stoked the insecurity of my parents' sloth, so I became a casualty of their suppressed self-loathing.

  • Wed, Nov 12 2008 6:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: No More Make-Up

    I also do not wear make-up. :)  About a year ago I had a similar call to challenge how terrible I'd actually look and feel without make-up.  It is going really great for me.  My skin has definitly improved and I feel like my appearance is much more geniune.  I've grown to really like the way I look.

    So, congradulations!  I think you're going to continue to be very happy wth your choice.

  • Wed, Nov 12 2008 7:40 PM In reply to

    • KyleO
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    hey awesome decision ditching the make-up. I think it is such a freeing experience to recognize and then correct a reliance on false comforts like make-up. I was wondering how you felt the first day you weren't going to wear make-up right before you saw anybody and I was curious about what your expectations of peoples reactions would be vs what they actually were.

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  • Thu, Nov 13 2008 12:27 AM In reply to

    • Paul C.
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    I had a very interesting reaction to this post.  The first thought that came to my mind when I read the title was, "Ah, but you can still wear makeup and not have it be noticable."  Since it was an immediate reaction that had nothing to do with what you ended up writing about, I am sure it's significant, but I am at a loss to what that significance would be.  Maybe it has to do with my own obsession with beauty in women.

    As for how you're feeling in regards to this freedom, I understand.  I went through a similar thing with my hair about 4 years ago, where I decided to stop putting any kind of product in it for the sake of others.  I felt really good about that decision then; it was so nice to get that extra 10 minutes of my life back everyday.

    I've actually gone one step further in this, and again it was liberating.  I've been keeping my head shaved somewhere around 6~12 mm since summer, and it feels great!  Although with the winter coming, I might end up needing to invest in some hats!

    And I'm going to have to check out that book...

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  • Thu, Nov 13 2008 6:26 AM In reply to

    Re: No More Make-Up

    Wonderful post, Colleen!

    This is a very powerful realization to make. What do you think precipitated the decision? You mention waking up one day with these thoughts... but presumably it's been a long time coming.

    For myself, I prefer the sight of your very pretty face without makeup. Smile

  • Thu, Nov 13 2008 9:07 AM In reply to

    • Colleen
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    hpot:

     I was wondering how you felt the first day you weren't going to wear make-up right before you saw anybody and I was curious about what your expectations of peoples reactions would be vs what they actually were.

    I was really, really nervous. I avoided all mirrors. It's even a little embarrassing to admit just how stressed out I was about it. I had a lot of fears about people making mean comments, making fun of me, but I kind of knew that those were blown out of proportion. And of course, no one said anything. One of the most liberating ideas in the world is how little most people actually care about what you do, how you look. I've really one only had one bad experience with the whole make-up/no make-up thing as an adult, and I think that was in part due to my susceptibility to that kind of pressuring at the time. One day at work I wore more make-up than usual because I was picking up Rich from the airport and we were going to have a special evening together. All of the women I worked with made a really huge deal about it, saying how "beautiful" I looked. At first it just seemed like friendly compliments, but I felt really uneasy about it. When I came in to work the next day, one of the ladies pulled me aside and said I should really wear that make-up everyday, making some criticisms about the way I looked otherwise. I felt two inches high, and I just caved in. Everyday afterwards I wore that make-up to work, feeling panicked if I ever forgot to put it on. I would rush to the bathroom to apply it before anyone could see me and make a comment. 

    nexalacer:

    I had a very interesting reaction to this post.  The first thought that came to my mind when I read the title was, "Ah, but you can still wear makeup and not have it be noticable."  Since it was an immediate reaction that had nothing to do with what you ended up writing about, I am sure it's significant, but I am at a loss to what that significance would be.  Maybe it has to do with my own obsession with beauty in women.

    That's very interesting. That was actually my defense for wearing make-up for a long time, because I mostly didn't wear heavy things like lipstick, eyeliner, and eyeshadow. I just wore face-make-up and mascara for the most part. But when I was being honest with myself, I had to admit that even that was something I clung to because I feared that people would reject me otherwise. 

    Charlotte:

    This is a very powerful realization to make. What do you think precipitated the decision? You mention waking up one day with these thoughts... but presumably it's been a long time coming.

    Yeah, it's something I went back and forth on for a long time. My primary defense was a somewhat righteous indignation of, "Well it's just not fair that people born with perfect skin should talk about how the rest of us shouldn't wear make-up because it is so vain!" I was thinking of a "friend" I used to have in high school who would talk fairly haughtily about how other women wore make-up and she didn't. But when you got right down to it, her only reasons for not wearing make-up that she would talk about were that she "didn't need to." She would say things sometimes like, "I'm so glad I don't need to wear make-up," of course implying that other women did need to. I always experienced it as a sort of cruel vanity masquerading as depth, and so I was attacking that position in my mind for a long time, rather than addressing the real issues. When I got over that, I just started to really experience how I felt when I did the ritualistic tune-up in the bathroom before heading out or before anyone came over. And honestly, it started to feel kind of degrading, that sense of fearful obligation. I think that was the start of it.  

     

  • Fri, Nov 14 2008 11:35 AM In reply to

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    Colleen:
    When I came in to work the next day, one of the ladies pulled me aside and said I should really wear that make-up everyday, making some criticisms about the way I looked otherwise.

    This is making me so angry. I think what happened was a good example of a slave attack - the ladies don't want to be alone in their make-up chains, so they encourage each other to go even further instead of breaking the evil spell and accepting themselves for who they are... Just a theory. It's great to see you took the courage to change things.

    Cheers!

  • Fri, Nov 14 2008 11:56 AM In reply to

    • Loonie
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    Spratzaman:

    Colleen:
    When I came in to work the next day, one of the ladies pulled me aside and said I should really wear that make-up everyday, making some criticisms about the way I looked otherwise.

    This is making me so angry. I think what happened was a good example of a slave attack - the ladies don't want to be alone in their make-up chains, so they encourage each other to go even further instead of breaking the evil spell and accepting themselves for who they are... Just a theory. It's great to see you took the courage to change things.

    Cheers!

    I have a similar reaction, Spratzaman and I think you are spot-on pointing it out as a slave attack.

    Colleen, I admire your ability to take more personal freedom and to challenge the mythology of 'culture' and live consistently with your values.  As a male, I find a woman who values herself and is not dramatizing 'fashion' much more interesting and attractive.  For what that's worth.

    Great to have you in this conversation.

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  • Fri, Nov 14 2008 1:06 PM In reply to

    • pcrs
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    Imagine also the time it will save you, this means an extra year of life.

    Violence has nothing with which to cover itself except the lie, and the lie has nothing to stand on other than violence. Any man who has once acclaimed violence as his method must inexorably choose the lie as his principle. Solzhenitsyn, Alexander

  • Fri, Nov 14 2008 5:46 PM In reply to

    • Faye
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    Re: No More Make-Up

     Your commitment to maintaining integrity regarding the values and needs of your true self is admirable indeed.

  • Fri, Nov 14 2008 8:53 PM In reply to

    • regis
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    Re: No More Make-Up

    I understand not wanting to wear makeup out of fear of some habitual addiction (and that you felt pressured into wearing) but I don't think makeup itself is some tool of repression.   Everyone has different associations with everything... to speak of my own experience with mothers fucking up their children, my mother always examined the state of my finger nails; even now, mostly when I'm nervous, I clean my nails instictively.  I realize that this isn't quite the same as the makeup, but I feel that nail-cleanliness is just the symptom of the pressure, and not necessarily the cause.  If you decide to wear makeup again, just do it for yourself, on your own terms.  Not as an obligation.

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