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  • Sat, Dec 1 2007 7:56 PM

    • Red
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    Is there a Middle Ground? Just a thought...

    One does not use the "Against Me" Argument because one does not want to put a gun to the heads of his/hers family and his/hers friends.  If one wants the violence to stop, one needs to retaliate with devastasting blows which is VERY hard to do and this is why we are still slaves.  I agree with Stef on this 100%.  However, I believe that the answer is not to reform society, but to flee society.  Society can not be reformed...the only way to change society is full blown retaliation and self-defense intellectually, emotionally, and even militarilly...I don't call the people who refuse to defend themselves cowards for a few reasons.  I believe that they lack devotion definitely but I would not call them cowards...they are scared of what would happen though but I would not call them cowards.  Where is the line.  How is an anarchist in an ideal world justified in paying taxes and using public services...If you are a slave that opposes slavery, you should not even accept a meal from your master and die...if all slaves did this, slavery would end because it would be unprofitable but it is suicidal just like standing up to the state...but at the same time as we should not expect them to totally reject statism/slavery we should never justify them support full blown statism/slavery...where is the middle ground if there is a middle ground...Stef made a vid about this I think but I think he removed it because I can't find it...he was talking about the 2 extremes...an anarchist who participates with the state by joining the military and an anarchist living on grasshoppers and honey in the wilderness...
    If you act like a Slave, you will always be a Slave...
  • Sat, Dec 1 2007 8:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Is there a Middle Ground? Just a thought...

    I don't make my decisions based on the fact that other people are willing to use violence... I pursue the best life I can regardless of the ethics of others, since I cannot control their actions, only my own.

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  • Sat, Dec 1 2007 8:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is there a Middle Ground? Just a thought...

    Which video/podcast did you do when you talked about the "Middle Ground"...it was like 19 mins long
    If you act like a Slave, you will always be a Slave...
  • Thu, Dec 6 2007 5:57 AM In reply to

    • Nathan
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    Re: Is there a Middle Ground? Just a thought...

    Red:
    Which video/podcast did you do when you talked about the "Middle Ground"...it was like 19 mins long

    There's a whole thread on it over here:  http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/thread/104856.aspx

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